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Illegals granted Social Security (05/18/06-Senate 50-49 vote/based on past illegal employment ????)
Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 5:13:02 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment." The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote. "We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican. "The Ensign amendment would undermine the work of these people by preventing lawfully present immigrant workers from claiming Social Security benefits that they earned before they were authorized to work in our community," he said. "If this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families." Mr. Ensign was among 44 Republicans and five Democrats who voted to block such payouts

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; alien; aliens; congress; congressmorons; corruption; dnc; elections; gop; identitytheft; johnmccain; leaglizedidtheft; mccain; senate; socialists; socialsecurity; ssa; tax; taxes
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Statements regarding senate vote.............

"It makes no sense to reward millions of illegal immigrants for criminal behavior while our Social Security system is already in crisis," said Sen. Jim DeMint, South Carolina Republican. "Why in the world would we endorse this criminal activity with federal benefits? The Senate missed a big opportunity to improve this bill, and I doubt American seniors will be pleased with the result."

"Instead of protecting the retirement security of Americans who are earning an honest living and abiding by the laws of our country, Debbie Stabenow sided with people who are here illegally and abuse our Social Security system,"

"What that means is that up to 200,000 unskilled workers a year would become eligible for a green card, regardless of economic conditions, regardless of whether that worker has been actually employed for four years, and most importantly, regardless of whether there are unemployed U.S. workers available to fill those jobs," said Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican.

1 posted on 05/19/2006 5:13:04 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Un-freaking-believable


2 posted on 05/19/2006 5:15:32 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: IrishMike
The House MUST stand strong and ensure that this unblievably flawed legislation from the Senate NEVER sees the light of day.

Time to turn a lot of the Sanate out on its ear in favor of true American statesmen.

3 posted on 05/19/2006 5:16:04 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: IrishMike

Let's see, Americans do not qualify unless they have worked and paid into SS for 40 quarters, but illegal aliens receive these benefits after 8. Nice.


4 posted on 05/19/2006 5:16:14 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: IrishMike
"We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican.

He's out of his mind! I sure hope he has given up on his idea of wanting to become President, because he's dead in the water!!

5 posted on 05/19/2006 5:18:49 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE'LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: GarySpFc
Let's see, Americans do not qualify unless they have worked and paid into SS for 40 quarters, but illegal aliens receive these benefits after 8. Nice.

I wonder if it's possible for an American to renounce his citizenship, remain here in the country as an illegal alien, and be under these easier rules (in enacted) for receiving Social Security.

6 posted on 05/19/2006 5:19:37 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops. Our thanks to each and every one of you!)
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To: IrishMike

Somebody PLEASE tell me how an illegal alien can pay into the social security system?

- If they are here illegaly, they have no valid SS number.

- How can a business pay the employer share of the SS tax if the employee is an illegal?

I DO NOT understand this.


7 posted on 05/19/2006 5:20:00 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: IrishMike

Looks like the liberals in the Senate want to give your social security benefits to Mexicans. Next, they'll give your medicare benefits and your jobs to Mexicans.


Personally, I think it's long past time for a revolution.


8 posted on 05/19/2006 5:20:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: IrishMike
Unbelievable. This must be stopped.

Who are these A-holes in government?
9 posted on 05/19/2006 5:21:07 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: jigsaw
You can go to any foreign embassy not on US soil and turn in your Passport and renounce your citizenship. Then I guess you'd just have to stroll across our southern border and Viola!
You're in!
10 posted on 05/19/2006 5:24:40 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Bryan24

They still have to pay taxes. It's just that they don't pay nearly enough to fund the benefits. In the first place, the payroll taxes don't cover the benefits anyway. In the second place, low pay workers pay a very small part of the benefits. The SS administration estimates that only about 1/2 of illegals pay payroll taxes. They estimate that the trust fund receives about $7 billion a year in taxes from illegals.

But that is not anywhere near enough to cover the benefits they would receive. Giving social security benefits to these immigrants will definitely make the problem of fixing social security much more difficult.


11 posted on 05/19/2006 5:25:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: IrishMike

Brought to you by the people who vote for their own salary increases and employment benefits. Well, I must be missing something here because this makes no sense.


12 posted on 05/19/2006 5:25:35 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Why was this not filibustered? I can't think of a better bill to filibuster.


13 posted on 05/19/2006 5:26:01 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Bryan24

From what I understand you do not need proof of citizenship to obtain a legal SS number....I could be wrong here (I hope I am).


14 posted on 05/19/2006 5:26:08 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: IrishMike

Need to post the roll call.


15 posted on 05/19/2006 5:26:43 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: IrishMike

McCain needs to go..........and take his little Debbie with hime.


16 posted on 05/19/2006 5:27:00 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Bryan24

Worse.....they steal your identitiy and they not only get away with it they get to collect social security.

Why are the dim libs getting to run the show in Washington, aren't we in control anymore?


17 posted on 05/19/2006 5:27:51 AM PDT by stopem (Sorry illegals the jobs are drying up you will be loitering a long time!)
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To: taxed2death
Interesting.   Thanks.
18 posted on 05/19/2006 5:28:40 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops. Our thanks to each and every one of you!)
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To: Jeff Head

Agreed.


19 posted on 05/19/2006 5:29:07 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: IrishMike

If the House lets this go through... our voices mean nothing.


20 posted on 05/19/2006 5:29:15 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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