"I ran with Hitler!"
Posted on 05/17/2006 6:49:36 PM PDT by FARS
If the stakes for world peace weren't so high I'd genuinely love to throw the whole thing to the EU with a "Negotiate this, guys, and call us when Tehran can hit New York." With sad regards to my friends in Europe, yes, that's what decades of incessant anti-Americanism have brought, and yes, a lot of Americans and not all of them conservatives, really do feel that way.
By then Iran will also be able to hit Bulgaria, Denmark, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, the Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, and the Ukraine. I mention those countries in particular because they've all lost people supporting us in Iraq. So, for that matter, has Spain, its pullout and its current government of backstabbing Socialist twits despite. And others who have sent people include the Czech Republic, Armenia, Macedonia, Estonia, and Norway. So before we go through the "Europeans hate us" mantra we'd better remember that it's only the ones with the biggest mouths.
In the meantime, too, we would be dealing with the blows and buffets of the Iran oil weapon - their Oil Exchange - which is coming on line in July.
Ping
Very well laid out case IMO.
Semper Fi'
Jarhead
If you're trying to make a point with an extended comparison to WWII, it helps your credibility if the historical narrative is not riddled with errors.
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I agree with the sentiment of the article. One glaring error was that Ireland remained neutral in World War II. De Valera, of course like the rest of the IRA, had no use for the British and believed their defeat would gain the Irish the North.
He may be a Writer and Lawyer but he's a pretty lousy WW2 historian.
"if the historical narrative is not riddled with errors."
I don't see much of an analogy.
Put it this way, it would be less time consuming to point out the facts he stated correctly than those stated incorrectly.
Another glaring error that comes to mind is the assertion that none of America's allies could produce enough matériel for themselves. Canada bought arms from the USA but we exported far more than we imported, and Canada was Britain's lifeline in 1940-41.
Germany declared war on us first. Do not even have to read any more of this article if the author gets that fact wrong.
Please point out errors.
"I ran with Hitler!"
Is that what happened?
Pretty good article for family and friends who don't get it.
Troop supporters FYI ping.
Um no. Leningrad was indeed beseiged, for 2 years. A million dead in that. Stalingrad was not beseiged but assaulted and taken, but almost a year after US entry. Mocsow wasn't beseiged at all, unless you count large battles named after it 50 to 200 miles shy of it. And it was soldiers who bore the brunt in both of those.
The Russians lost 7 million men from the military, and 2 to 3 times that from civilians. But no it wasn't the cold. It was Germans, especially in the occupied areas. Ukraine was systematically starved as agricultural production was forcably taken and used for the occupiers or shipped to Germany.
It is true Russian domestic product fell 40% because so much of the country was occupied, and much of what remained had to go into armaments. That killed off some of the old and frail, because it reduced civilian rations to about 1200 calories a day. Try it, it is an effective diet if you can stick to it, you will lose 3-4 pounds a week. If you aren't overweight you will find it a trifle uncomfortable after a bit. Now try it for 2-4 years.
Just for starters. The article is a silly comparison based on half digested, incomplete history.
Um, the wars of the French revolution and Napoleonic wars combined, to take it in the broadest sense, indeed lasted a generation, but ended in 1815. 15 is not 50.
This guy better pick up a history book, Ireland was a neutral contry throughout WW II.
World War II began in 1928
No, it began on September 1939 with the invasion of Poland. Most of the figures and dates in this thing are wrong.
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