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To: FARS

If you're trying to make a point with an extended comparison to WWII, it helps your credibility if the historical narrative is not riddled with errors.


4 posted on 05/17/2006 7:01:16 PM PDT by Dr. Nobel Dynamite
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To: Dr. Nobel Dynamite

"if the historical narrative is not riddled with errors."




I would agree if I knew to which errors you refer. Note, I did not write the article but found the gist and comparisons most compelling - with or without the inaccuracies you mention.


8 posted on 05/17/2006 7:06:20 PM PDT by FARS (OK)
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To: Dr. Nobel Dynamite

Please point out errors.


13 posted on 05/17/2006 7:12:33 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Dr. Nobel Dynamite

I would also appreciate your pointing out the errors. I've read more about WWII than most Americans and would appreciate accuracy if you can supply it.


23 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:30 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Dr. Nobel Dynamite

This article reads like something I'd find in a high school newspaper.


29 posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:09 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Dazedcat
Here is what we are in Iraq for. Nice you have feeling, please stop confusing them for facts.

For the Neo-isolationists, HERE is what we are up to in Iraq.

Counter Insurgency is a strange bastard style of war. It is not total war but it is also more then the Leftist" Police matter". The other thing most old Cast Iron Conservatives forget is the political aspect. Iraq was doable. We had the political consensus to do it. So since we needed a kill zone we could suck the terrorists into and we needed to get the American people to support the cost, there was no other choice BUT Iraq.

Want to really blow the Leftists minds? Tell them this. Even if Al Gore won in 2000 and 9-11 happened the USA would STILL be doing the same thing now in Iraq. Iraq was doable militarily and politically. There was no other place for the US to go. Iraq is basically the same deal as the invasions of Italy was in 1943

Here in a nutshell, is the MILTIARY reason for Iraq. The War on Terrorism is different sort of war. In the war on Terrorism, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone. Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is hostile to guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

There are other reasons to do Iraq but that is the MILITARY reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. I often worry that the American people have neither the maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" then to actually THINK. Problem is these people have NO desire to co-exist with us. They see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. They think their "god" will bless them for killing Westerners. So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest realize we are serious. See in the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it.

156 posted on 05/18/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservative, The simple fact about DC is this . "There is more work to do"...)
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