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To: Dr. Nobel Dynamite

Please point out errors.


13 posted on 05/17/2006 7:12:33 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Rennes Templar
...in outrage Congress unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following day on Germany, which had not attacked us.

Is that what happened?

16 posted on 05/17/2006 7:17:15 PM PDT by Dr. Nobel Dynamite
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To: Rennes Templar
24 million dead in seige of Stalingrad and Moscow, 90% of them to cold and starvation.

Um no. Leningrad was indeed beseiged, for 2 years. A million dead in that. Stalingrad was not beseiged but assaulted and taken, but almost a year after US entry. Mocsow wasn't beseiged at all, unless you count large battles named after it 50 to 200 miles shy of it. And it was soldiers who bore the brunt in both of those.

The Russians lost 7 million men from the military, and 2 to 3 times that from civilians. But no it wasn't the cold. It was Germans, especially in the occupied areas. Ukraine was systematically starved as agricultural production was forcably taken and used for the occupiers or shipped to Germany.

It is true Russian domestic product fell 40% because so much of the country was occupied, and much of what remained had to go into armaments. That killed off some of the old and frail, because it reduced civilian rations to about 1200 calories a day. Try it, it is an effective diet if you can stick to it, you will lose 3-4 pounds a week. If you aren't overweight you will find it a trifle uncomfortable after a bit. Now try it for 2-4 years.

Just for starters. The article is a silly comparison based on half digested, incomplete history.

18 posted on 05/17/2006 7:24:10 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Rennes Templar
Europe spent the first half the the 19th century fighting Napoleon.

Um, the wars of the French revolution and Napoleonic wars combined, to take it in the broadest sense, indeed lasted a generation, but ended in 1815. 15 is not 50.

19 posted on 05/17/2006 7:26:32 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Rennes Templar

Russia saved America's butt by putting up a desperate fight for two years until the US got geared up to begin hammering away at Germany.


That always makes me pissed off to hear that.

Thanks for the help in fighting your naighbor Japan Russia. You helped save America butt by declaring war on Japan AUG 8th 1945.

That is not even a joke.


24 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:45 PM PDT by Iwentsouth
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To: Rennes Templar

Forget the errors for a second because you have to take into account this is coming from a Liberal lawyer.

His point to all of this is as follows:

Jihadists are Conservatives who are trying to take over the world and unless they are stopped, liberalism will die.

Now to put it in a different perspective. America is hated not because of financial jealousy or giving off the perspective of arrogance. America is hated because of liberalism. Secular beliefs and decadent lifestyles which most of the world, outside of Communist nations abhors. Even the Communists abhor liberalism. For them it is a tool to destroy free societies before they come in, instil their ideology and kill all the liberals.


121 posted on 05/18/2006 5:44:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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