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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: pissant

Doncha get it Pissy....
You're a sacred cow.


961 posted on 05/17/2006 11:25:47 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Toby06
"So letting in a ton of Al-quaeda through our unguarded mexican border is a good policy?"

No! Get them box cars ready! Round them up! Mine the borders! Anyone crossing the border, shoot them on sight! 12 million Al-quaeda terrorists is enough!

962 posted on 05/17/2006 11:26:32 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Rokke

Oh I'm interested in discussing plenty of issues, just not with you. The rest of your post is good for a cheap laugh. Thanks.


963 posted on 05/17/2006 11:27:07 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Oliver Optic

Thank you for your kind reply.


964 posted on 05/17/2006 11:27:21 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: Pukin Dog

Just so you know. When you put the word flying, and Pukin together, it is real easy to accidently read that P as a Ph.


965 posted on 05/17/2006 11:27:26 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Lead Moderator
No! Get them box cars ready! Round them up! Mine the borders! Anyone crossing the border, shoot them on sight! 12 million Al-quaeda terrorists is enough!

I'd expect that kind of over-the-top hyperbolic shoutdown from the likes of Lanni Davis. Not an FR mod.

966 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:00 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: George W. Bush
Well, I think that Casey from PA is pro-life and supports the Second. I think Zell Miller did too

Casey, jr. is no Zell Miller

He's not even like his father

967 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: ClancyJ; Prokopton

***
Ok, "Hard Core American", you come to the election. Do you vote democrat or republican? Let me know what democrat would solve the border problem.

"Hard Core American" - will a democrat preserve America or turn it into a socialistic world court member?

Will a democrat be pro-life? Will a democrat cut taxes? Will a democrat give you interpretation-only judges?

Or, are these other items of no importance?***

Clancy, I back up every word you just posted.


968 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:03 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: George W. Bush

For the record, I like you, President Bush.

(I am stubborn about my preference for believing that you're REALLY George W. Bush, lurking here in the open, because it makes it more fun.)

And, for the record, Mr. President, if you'll just give the Border Conservatives their Fence, just start building it by executive order in various places (and stop talking about a "virtual fence", which you know means "No fence"), the Party will win in Fall.

Note, please, that once you've WON, you can even slow down building the Fence to a snail's crawl, if you don't really want to build it in the end. But you've got to give the BorderBots something NOW. The Fence is the big enchilada. Promise it. Start building pieces of it. And win in November.

Please.


969 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:22 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: dougmilner
Dasher is the one who invited me to join here. I was wondering why I haven't heard from her. We met volunteering at a Support the Troops Rally. What a great lady - terrific sense of humor. Sorry to hear she's gone.

There are a lot of us here who would openly vouch for Dash and peacebaby if it would make a difference.

970 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:25 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Xeno is no DU/Kos troll. Just fed up with things going on here.


971 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:36 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: Denver Ditdat
Does anyone with direct experience in a Congressman's office know what would constitute "critical mass" in terms of numbers of letters received?

I have written to all GOP senators and to House members who I think are more likely to hold the line. Thus far, I have recieved replies from 80% or thereabout. I regret to say, that I think most were form letters, but admittedly, I sent them similar letters too :)

972 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:03 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Vicomte13
Universal prosecution and deportation and penalties are unreasonable and unrealistic. But a FENCE, that is reasonable, and realistic, and in the end it is the MOST IMPORTANT piece of the immigration battle anyway, because THAT stops the flow.

I agree with you on the fence. I think that is doable this year in a compromise too. I think a universal ID card with strong sanctions for hiring illegals would be a lot more effective, however.

973 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:18 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Mo1

Thanks. Good link!


974 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:20 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

It's a mans world.


975 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:24 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Lead Moderator

Great job. We're glad you're here.


976 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:25 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Lakeshark
If the Dems take over

The Dems arent going to take over...maybe the House but nothing else. The Dems are incapable of offering anything but anger. They have shown time after time that they are capable of pulling defeat out of the teeth of apparent victory. They are losers. Maybe if they do take the House, the President might finally use his veto. If he does and the Senate uses its fillibuster, hell will freeze over before the Dems control anything.

977 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:29 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Mo1

Not surprised...shocked that he would be so open about it.


978 posted on 05/17/2006 11:29:45 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: ClancyJ
Ok, "Hard Core American", you come to the election. Do you vote democrat or republican? Let me know what democrat would solve the border problem.

"Hard Core American" - will a democrat preserve America or turn it into a socialistic world court member?

Will a democrat be pro-life? Will a democrat cut taxes? Will a democrat give you interpretation-only judges?

Or, are these other items of no importance?"


Whether we are in the World Court or not the United States will survive. Even if we were in it for a while, we could always make the decision to withdraw.

Whether Roe v. Wade is overturned or not the United States will survive. It might take years for peoples hearts to be softened. If it is ever overturned more than likely the states will decide on abortion restrictions. Local politicians will be making the decisions.

Whether taxes are cut or raised, the United States will survive. Taxes are raised and lowered on a regular basis and the decision can always be reversed.

Supreme Court Justices come and go and the United States has, and will, survive. Two of the most liberal Justices, Kennedy and Souter, were nominated by Republican Presidents.

IF THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY BY ILLEGAL ALIENS IS NOT STOPPED THE UNITED STATES WILL NOT SURVIVE. There is no changing your mind, there is no turning back, there will be no bill that can be passed or Supreme Court decision that could be made that will put the genie back in the bottle. Once our culture, our social institutions and, yes, our representative government(make no mistake they will become voters) is changed by the massive influx of uneducated, low skilled, socialist leaning, illegal aliens the United States, as we have known it and as the Founders intended it to be, will cease to exist.

This is an overriding issue that must be addressed NOW.
If we fail now, soon it will be to late.
979 posted on 05/17/2006 11:30:02 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: The_Victor
There are a lot of us here who would openly vouch for Dash and peacebaby if it would make a difference

Dasher likes my dog. That has to be good for something.

980 posted on 05/17/2006 11:30:23 AM PDT by Flyer (Tag line FINALLY approved by humblegunner)
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