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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog

Maybe we should have a Freeper poll as to whether we think Dubya is as good as a Ruth Chris steak.


741 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:20 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Lead Moderator
Nobody gets banned for anything other than violation of posting guidelines.

Let me help you with that:

Some people get banned for what may be a violation of posting guidelines while others get away with it.
742 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:22 AM PDT by BJClinton (Forget the fence, annex Mexico.)
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To: Pukin Dog
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Great rant, and nice analogy. I would only add that if you don't want the steak with a sprig of parsley, the alternative choice is a great big parsley-only salad.

743 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:50 AM PDT by CDB (L/MSM = "controversy, crap and confusion" (based on a quote by Alan Simpson))
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To: trubluolyguy
One of the reasons I despise libs is because I can't stand people that refuse to think for themselves. Besides it's fun to poke fun at the overly sensitive.

You don't despise libs much since you are actively working for them if you love ridiculing those that support the President of the United States.

744 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:51 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: gondramB; maica
As a newcomer I tend to assume that anybody with a '98 signup date is a battle hardened proven conservative Freeper.

There was a period during which the disrupters who signed up in '98 were so active that I got into the habit of checking the "Member Since" dates of particularly egregious posters.

The majority of them had '98 signup dates.

745 posted on 05/17/2006 10:40:07 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Peach
>>Not when they're on duty. I wasn't aware that part of their job description as moderators was informing FReepers where their opinions lay.

If they can tell us their opinions, why can't we know their names?<<

Yep. I did not support going into Iraq at the time that we did, in the way that we did but we have made an American commitment to the war. We cannot afford to elect people who do not take that responsibility and commitment seriously.
746 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:13 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Mxylplith of Zorn

No, you were banned for being a retread troll, troll.


747 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Texaggie79
Ok, then. I'm going to make a thread asking that the Vice President be respected too. And it better damn well make it to breaking news.

Good, see, you can support this administration. That did not hurt did it.

And, I had written you off as hopeless.

748 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:29 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Vicomte13
Great post.

The Republican party is a coalition of economic and social conservatives.

The social conservatives are upset that Bush is siding with Ted Kennedy on this issue. Keep ignoring them, and they will stay home, just like the economic conservatives punished Bush I in 1992.

When Republicans act like Democrats low/middle income voters stop caring or they vote their pocket book. Kennedy and Reid had nothing but praise for Bush's speech.

A lot of FReepers never seem to understand. Most people don't make 100K a year and don't give a damn about the capital gains cut or a balanced budget.
749 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:29 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Spiff

Prove it.


750 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:34 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: ClancyJ

Wow, you're so cordial and persuasive. How could I possibly disagree with such a sunny disposition?


751 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:47 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Some Dare Call It Amnesty)
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To: BJClinton
Some people get banned for what may be a violation of posting guidelines while others get away with it.

That is true but that is life. It just depends on which way the wind is blowing. Sometimes you are on the right side, sometimes your not.

752 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:53 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: onyx
Hegal is up now yapping that this bill is not amnesty

Says the Vitter amendment is irresponsible

Gee .. I haven't seen Hegal on the Senate floor for a speech in months .. maybe longer

753 posted on 05/17/2006 10:41:55 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Torie
You are late.
754 posted on 05/17/2006 10:42:07 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mxylplith of Zorn

You weren't banned for posting that drivel. You were REBANNED for being a RETREAD. Got it?


755 posted on 05/17/2006 10:42:35 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: trubluolyguy

"We should stop calling people Bushbots. It's not fair."



"How about Lemmings?"

No no no.
We have to stop this.
Pukin' Dog's right:
shooting into a circle isn't going to do any of us any good.

What we need to do is respect the Border Conservatives enough to give them SOMETHING - their real fence, that's all, why NOT give it to them? - so that they stay in ranks.

We need to revive Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

The BorderBots shouldn't be hating the Bush loyalists, or vice versa. They should be talking it out, understanding what the demands are, and accomodating each other.

How about this:
WE give YOU the Fence you want, from sea to sea, and we start building it this year.
And YOU promise to give US your votes in November, to keep the Republican majority.

Political horsetrading is needed.
Political namecalling isn't.
Have you ever concluded a sale with a shopkeeper who called you names? No.
We have to talk to each other with respect.


756 posted on 05/17/2006 10:42:50 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I wish I'd been as smart as you at your dumbest! I voted FOR Clinton. Some conservatives may think the country will benefit from a "house divided" in thge sense that if no one party dominates, we'll have gridlock and threfore government will cease to grow. Even if that was true, it severely handicaps the United States in the most important issue of our time--- the WOT. But it's not true in any event, and never has been.


757 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:06 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Sir Gawain
I got suspended for a day about a week ago after typing "smooch" to Admin Mod. Gotta be careful who you give a virtual kiss to I guess.

You have a selective memory. Fortunately we have archives available to the mods and the general public.

758 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Lazamataz

Democrats will give us world courts, global taxes, pro partial birth abortionists on the courts, socialism, Kyoto, destroy the economy, nationalized healthcare, and will leave Iraq and our enemies will rejoice.

I think there's a little bit more to what Democrats will do to this country and far more reason to vote Republican than just the few items you mentioned.


759 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:22 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Pukin Dog

Someone else already suggested that? How clever of them!


760 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:29 AM PDT by Torie
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