Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Good piece and timely. The problem is that we only see half the picture. So much goes on that never becomes public, or only years later and meanwhile the general dumb public believes the relentless MSM lies. Drip, drip, drip. With Bush's poll numbers finally in the cellar (Wolf Blizter must be ecstatic), he has to do something meaningful about border control. If he'd only addressed this properly two or three years ago, it wouldn't be a nightmare. We conservatives were yelling about it, but they didn't pay attention. (I think he should have Jeff Sessions over for dinner on a weekly basis.)
Indeed so, Harper is a great improvement.
It wouldn't happen if you were polite and civil.
Since it's not true, none will be forthcoming, and the discussion will be over.
Besides, I'm outta here anyway. The sun is shining here for the first time in a week, and I'm going OUT. :)
Why would I want you banned from here? I do not.
I have read somne of your posts and I take issue only with your defeatist attitude ala predictions. Nothing like poll watching. I prefer to use much of my energy writing to congress and working in real campaigns in the attempt to have the most conservative candidate win the primary.
I missed the Laura attacks too, (no loss.)
Why the @#!#@$ is this thread in breaking news? You mods know that many are well aware of your little bond with pukin. Why make it even more apparent? This thread is nothing but a bloated self importance thread. It's not going to change anything, only make things worse. FReepers are dedicated conservatives and we will help keep democrats out of the office, even without having to put up with this self aggrandizement thread. This is breaking news as much as what I had for breakfast is. This ain't highschool, we are adults, and we don't need these lectures on how to "get along".
And just why would you want to go against someone asking that the President of the United States be respected?
You feel your duty is to disrespect the President? Why? And, if so, why in the world are you on a site that is trying to keep republicans in office?
The only reason I can see is to destroy from within, to bring about the election of democrats.
"Are you going to jump, or are you going to just hang around threatening to jump?"
Who is threatening to jump?
I explained why the Border Conservatives are going to deliver the GOP an ugly defeat this November, and what the GOP will probably do to recover from it in 2007, to have a reasonable shot at recapturing it all in 2008.
I was analyzing what Border Conservatives are doing and saying, comparing it to the behavior of tax-hawks and pro-lifers in the past, and noting what the long term outcome probably will be, based on past political history.
I'm not going anywhere unless asked to leave by the owner of this forum.
Oh, come on. You came out and said your accusation wasn't veiled. Anyone can see what you said earlier in the thread, so stop acting innocent. I am not going to waste any time on someone who accuses me of being a liar. Good day to you.
That's where you're wrong. Perhaps you ought to read many more posts.
I've watched your posts...All anti-illegal conservatives are trolls, nut-ball radicals with no ideas to you...I don't think I want to belong to any Party you belong to...So, what political Party would that be???
Then what ARE you doing in this thread anyway?
It's almost as his ardent supporters think he's next to Jesus.
C'mon, you know that's absolute bull cookies. Even I, an "ardent supporter" disagrees with him on alot of things. That's no reason to throw in the towel, or cast a wedge of dissension among "like minded conservatives" on a forum catering to "like minded conservatives".
But only Jesus is perfect.
Then you do agree with President Bush on one thing. It's a start.
Also, I've seen a lot of good people on FR tarred with the 'troll/antifreeper' brush. It's tiresome.
Then stay off these threads.
The Ohio Republican party gave overt support to Jim Petro against Ken Blackwell, but the grassroots effort and public support gave Blackwell, a REAL conservative, the substantial victory.
It is incumbent on "we, the people" to get rid of the RINOS. If we will not do that, it is not the party to blame, but ourselves.
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I think this is AN EXTREMELY CRITICAL POINT. There are Marxist elite folks using the GOP to evil ends, too. No surprise there. But that's no reason to roll over and play dead and allow them to give it WHOLESALE TO THE DIMRATS to do the worst possible toward Machiavellian Marxist ends. Those traitors would be many times worse at a much faster pace than perhaps even the worst RINOS.
I will defend this president whenever I believe he needs defending, thank you very much.
Fact is, there are subversive trolls on the board, deliberately stirring things up.
My guess is whoever started it was probably banned back in '97.
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