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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: dirtboy
Bush's signature on a bill is functionally the same as assenting to the provisions in it.

You'd have to read his signing statement as well to find out whether he'll enforce it, considers it constitutional, etc.
3,481 posted on 05/19/2006 6:26:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: dirtboy

That bill is miles away from what comes out of Congress. It has to get redone in Committee or don't you know how bills work. Oh that's right you would rather have the emotion of the Senate bill just got signed into law. What a maroon.

Pray for W and Our Troops


3,482 posted on 05/19/2006 6:29:51 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: wardaddy

Nice little whinebaby, you are the one calling him "ears" and "little bush" which are so similar to chimp and shrub that you have to wonder where you really hang out. Then you come on with this little song and dance? Pathetic!

Pray for W and Our Troops


3,483 posted on 05/19/2006 6:38:48 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: bray
You don't have to lead or compromise when your out of power.

Even a high school drum major knows it's a damn sight harder to lead a parade than to follow and bitch about the marching.

I keep going back to "The Conservative Rout" by Russell Kirk (Later renamed "Conservative Mind."

Kirk claims that conservatism will always lose because progressivism -is- activism and the very nature of a true conservative will tend to eat his own, and/or be steam-rolled by the activist/progressivists.

It's a dull historical read, but really nails the mechanics of the political times we're living.

Meanwhile, we're getting pilloried on this thread by the likes of the WoW folks who claim that -WE'RE- the mindless fools!

FReegards!

3,484 posted on 05/19/2006 6:49:25 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: bray
That bill is miles away from what comes out of Congress. It has to get redone in Committee or don't you know how bills work. Oh that's right you would rather have the emotion of the Senate bill just got signed into law. What a maroon.

Once again, do you see Bush saying he will veto any bill with amnesty provisions?

You don't. If Bush had said that, the Senate Bill would look very different today.

3,485 posted on 05/19/2006 6:55:30 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Pukin Dog
I will thank you to not mischaracterize my statements. Unless you know every post I made with respect to Miers, you had best relax.

I don't believe I was mischaracterizing anything.

Your previous vanity thread is here:

Miers Vanity

Some of your quotes from that thread are here:

"I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

True, you never called anyone ignorant. That's the impression I took from your assertion that we voters were to blame for Bush's lousy pick.

And, I am relaxed.

3,486 posted on 05/19/2006 6:58:34 AM PDT by Washi
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Not when I consider the Lynch Mob howling at the GOP.

So, in other words, you are acting just like the Dems did during Clinton's impeachment - you are so busy counterattacking that you cannot be bothered to stop and think about whether Bush's stance on this is wrong.

3,487 posted on 05/19/2006 7:00:34 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: CWOJackson
Sure you do. If you acknowledge that the president would sign the bill as is, you have to defend the fact he's sided once more with liberal democrats.

President's getting harder and harder to justify an oath of fealty, isn't he? My sympathies.

3,488 posted on 05/19/2006 7:01:13 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: George W. Bush
You'd have to read his signing statement as well to find out whether he'll enforce it, considers it constitutional, etc.

True enough. However, if he had come out and said any bill with an amnesty would be vetoed, I doubt we would see amnesty in the Senate bill.

3,489 posted on 05/19/2006 7:50:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Rokke

You're not worth the ping.

South Basher and Open Border troll one in the same.


3,490 posted on 05/19/2006 8:21:13 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: bray

I called Perot "ears"?

Are you on drugs?


3,491 posted on 05/19/2006 8:21:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: Bacon Man; Hap

The best self-zot EVER is in post 915.


3,492 posted on 05/19/2006 8:32:10 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Pudding won't fill the emptiness inside me . . . but it'll help.)
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To: nopardons; onyx


Don't either of you play dumb. I said you kept bad company here. Company that is gleeful over things that aggravate me presonally. I did make the claim that either of YOU said something in particular.

I stand by that. You wish to draw conclusions beyond that thenyou are both just surmising.

No one said either of you danced on Matt's banning but you high five with fellow FReepers who do....a month later even....some of them just can't resist the impulse.

Talk of lists to be banned, and personal banning warnings on open thread like they think they run the damned place.

It's all silly is quite right.

But this issue is anything but silly.


3,493 posted on 05/19/2006 8:32:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: nopardons

You most certainly did ping me first on this thread. I never challenge you for the heck of it ...believe me.

To: wardaddy
Trust me, LIEberman is not "decent" in any way, shape, manner, or form, with the one exception of his sort of support of the WOT.

2,397 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:49 PM CDT by nopardons
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3,494 posted on 05/19/2006 8:48:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

"Raise you a Durbin and an Obama, and call... Never mind, we've packed our bags for Ohio."

Where you'll have a DeWine and a Voinovich! LOL!


3,495 posted on 05/19/2006 8:51:14 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Only after sufficient land grants. I don't come cheap."

Neither do the "rabble".


3,496 posted on 05/19/2006 8:52:07 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"They told us he was "annointed" remember?"

Thanks I had forgot about that mantra, "annointed" used by the insane one at DU, Koz and of course the Walk on Water Uber Conservatives on FR.



3,497 posted on 05/19/2006 8:54:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: wardaddy
I was perusing this thread and noticed Travis McGee has been banned. That is quite a shock to me.

I always thought of him as one of the very best posters on FR and also one of the most illustrious.

Not certain I want to stay on a site which would ban him.

3,498 posted on 05/19/2006 8:58:25 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

well...folks could at least resist celebrating it?


3,499 posted on 05/19/2006 9:12:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: wardaddy
There is a certain group, I am sure I don't know who all of them are, but most I do, who instantly show up on any immigration thread and start attacking the more conservative posters, then as they pile on they begin yucking it up among themselves. They also constantly congratulate each other on their brilliance, clever posting, etc.

From reading the first and last pages of this particular one, they clearly know they are the ones in power here and know they can insult, attack, etc. with impunity.

I have been on FR for many years but I think this may be my last post, I am literally fed up with it.

3,500 posted on 05/19/2006 9:18:52 AM PDT by yarddog
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