Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
He posted the correct estimate after I challenged the original one then claimed it proved his point.
If I remember correctly, this is the same guy who told us all that we were all politically ignorant because we thought that we could get a better candidate for SCOTUS than Harriet Myers. He had inside sources, and special connections that told him that there was no way that anyone other than Harriet Myers could be confirmed.
That didn't prove to be the case.
Now he is offering his expertise on the matter of illegal immigration and the politics involved with that.
With over 3,000 replies, it appears that many people give this guy, "Pukin," alot of defference.
I'll follow this thread and try to figure out why.
It isn't news to anyone familiar with the way the world works.
I don't believe you would lie to me. I am going with the actual number you quoted for me.
As usual, you refuse to answer any direct question. There is actually athread here on Gillespie and Laura's sexist opining on Meirs. Use search.
I'm not going to waste my time doing your research....you find it and refute me.
I've seen you just dodge and require a links galore and just keep dodging.
Just like you won't even commit where you stand except your Bush worship.
Why aren't you and the other Bots hanging out here on this thread over on the Senate Passes Amnesty thread. Not one Bot there whooping it up. Not even Dane or Stinkie.
Aren't ya'll happy?
It gets past the House and Bush will sign it....probably invite Fox to witness.
You never answer diddly Rokke....you just Bot_Bait. Always wiggling. Are you a lawyer too like your pal clawrence3
Why are no Bots on the Senate thread SB?
You'd think they'd be there high fiving and singing kumbaya or something
I don't have a "crowd". I "run" with nobody but myself.
I see that you also feel quite FREE to lie, insult, bait, impugn, and personally attack anyone and everyone,now, depending upon your moods; even when it's warrantless.
I have been polite and civil to you; which is far more, than I can say about you and your conduct towards me.
Sure thing. The problem is trying to estimate exactly how many of those are legal vs. illegal. I have no problems with legal immigrants, but it's very possible Tennessee alone could have upwards of 1 million Hispanics overall, of which perhaps 50-75% may be illegal. The fact we've tolerated allowing this to happen (even in places which AREN'T border states) is simply outrageous by any stretch of the imagination.
Hardly....I have always been cordial with you and Onyx but not the Bot posse which includes many of your pals who I've found to be soft on many cultural issues for years.
You very bright but you live to fight.
Find someone else.
We are considered a safe haven.
Refute you? Refute what? You've offered nothing but an empty accusation that you can't provide any support for. Here, I'll do the same thing...One issue anti-Bush voters are all secretly employed by Chinese Communists. Now prove me wrong.
The simple fact is, I accuse you of making a false statement regarding Ed Gillespie. You said "Gillespie is always the point man in calling folks racist or sexist for the White House Rokke." Prove you are correct and I'll apologize for accusing you of making unsupportable statements.
And like I said before, then I will be perfectly happy to answer all your questions.
I see my ping and some of the posts between you two.
Cordial? That is quite a formal word. I must ask, "has it pained you to be cordial to us?"
I'm not saying anything else tonight. I am too furious and I'm venting my fury on another thread. And to think you have implied that I am an OBL. Good grief.
It's sure been painful to see the crowd ya'll hang with and yuk it up with yep...like that wanker Rokke or Dane or Sinkspur....all of them complete open borders bot trolls tolerated here for what?
and to see a good man like Travis permabanned while ya'll yuk it up with folks who dance over and celebrate his banning... Matt was your friend.....when they high five over his banning they should be told to kiss off. None of them could hold a candle to his character. There just boys with keyboards and big mouths
yeah...you're right....been damned difficult but I have no compulsion to suck up here to get along
definitely not what I expected from a President I busted my ass to get elected ..selling out my culture along with the RINOs
and the disappointment I feel when I see this forum failing to lead the fight to retain our culture and secure our borders.
It sucks. Is that clear enough. This is a major issue for me and most Americans, Bush worship notwithstanding.
I'm hardly alone.....poll after poll here proves that well enough.
I never implied either of you are OBL but you sure as hell both hang with the OBL posse here. You can't deny it.
Pundit after pundit who used to be lauded here are no called trolls and derided simply because they challeneged Bush. That is utter nonsense.
This is all so high schooly. Conform or else. I don't really care anymore. It's so silly. The GOP has imploded and all anyone here cares about is to not be a Bush basher.
Bush and the GOP earned this ire.....every damned ounce of it.
Did I post TO YOU, personally, on this thread, first? NO, I DID NOT!
I don't "live to fight".
I suggest that YOU find someone else to try to start a flame war with. You sought me out and I have no wish to be engaged in YOUR war against old friends.
"Whatever the mechanics of them they reflect the opinion of many I have seen here."
They were meant to reflect what the pollster desired to be reflected, but failed.
O - M - G.
Where to start?
I would have never believed that you could possibly be so wrong about so many things and people.
Stunning! Absolutely stunning!
IF I reply, it will be in FR mail. The forum does not need this childishness.
I hate to ask, but what is an OBL, in this context. I really don't know.
Interesting.
I suggest that YOU find someone else to try to start a flame war with. You sought me out and I have no wish to be engaged in YOUR war against old friends.
Ditto that, nopardons.
Open Border Lover.
Clever, huh?
ME, a born and raised native San Diegan, an OBL!
Amazing, I tell you, just amazing.
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