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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: CWOJackson
Peddle your BS elsewhere.

Is there a ring attached to a string in your back that someone pulls and then certain scripted responses come out?

2,921 posted on 05/18/2006 11:39:56 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: lemura; Vicomte13
Excellent analysis.

Vicomte13's posts are the antidote to those who say the border folks want the Dems to win.

Too bad so many in the Bush camp on this issue won't take that antidote.

2,922 posted on 05/18/2006 11:41:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy
"You have to go back to his first post to see what my issue is with the particular poster's line of debate."

LOL! I've been on this thread for four hours. How'sabout I just take your word for it?

2,923 posted on 05/18/2006 11:41:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Drugs? Illegals? Legalize and Tax 'Em All, Right? Right??)
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To: dirtboy; Admin Moderator
Tell you what there dirtboy, since you haven't gotten the hind yet: spare me your BS and don't post to me and I won't post to you. You have nothing to say that interests me in the slightest.
2,924 posted on 05/18/2006 11:41:37 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Vicomte13
I have to compliment you on your excellent post. It was enjoyable, insightful and quite educational. Depressing? Not hardly. You are sending out knowledge and perspective, in a very calm and reasoned manner. You contribute to this forum.
2,925 posted on 05/18/2006 11:43:18 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: CWOJackson
Tell you what there dirtboy, since you haven't gotten the hind yet: spare me your BS and don't post to me and I won't post to you. You have nothing to say that interests me in the slightest.

Why don't you quit insulting those on the other side of the debate, like you did in your letter that you posted, and I won't respond to you.

You seem to think that you should be able to disparage the other side and not catch flack for it.

2,926 posted on 05/18/2006 11:43:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: lemura
"Excellent analysis."

No it isn't. Excellent analyses cover all sides and he missed one. His/her own (though I'm presuming "he" for some reason). It was a good metaphore though.

2,927 posted on 05/18/2006 11:44:33 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Drugs? Illegals? Legalize and Tax 'Em All, Right? Right??)
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To: cake_crumb
LOL! I've been on this thread for four hours. How'sabout I just take your word for it?

No, I DEMAND you trace it back. Until your eyes bleed! :^)

2,928 posted on 05/18/2006 11:44:52 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy
I've asked you three times now dirtboy. If you don't like the letter that's just TS. A lot of people are sick and tired of your likes claiming to speak for them.

Now, one last time, please stop posting to me.

2,929 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: dirtboy
"I guess you missed the stories where a lot of non-Canadians do come across the northern border as illegals."

Yes. I did. Do you have a rough hack at the numbers.

"We CAN act within our own boundaries to keep illegals out."

My point exactly. You choose to do it by expanding government while you pat yourself on the back for being a "true conservative". I choose to do it by eliminating the lure that currently draws illegals over here. That lure is easily available jobs and free social welfare help. My solution reduces government spending.

"It's a straw man in the context of what I was discussing - improving border security."

Actually, building a "wall" is a straw man with regard to the whole immigration problem. It doesn't solve the problem. It is a band aid and something to hide behind. The most effective means of stopping immigration is eliminating the reason Mexicans are illegally crossing the border to this country.

"Oh, and I have, for some time, encouraged a much stronger crackdown on businesses that hire illegals."

Good. As a conservative, that should be your first emphasis at it does not required increased government.

2,930 posted on 05/18/2006 11:46:40 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: dirtboy
"You have to go back to his first post to see what my issue is with the particular poster's line of debate."

Why don't you tell me what your issue is.

2,931 posted on 05/18/2006 11:49:17 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Lead Moderator

Oh crap, you keep a record of that stuff??? I feel an embarrassed flush arisin'...


2,932 posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:15 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Warren_Piece
"I had to take a step back and quit posting for a while."

I did, too. We all seem to get that way when we let emotion rule over reason. It happens from time to time. The "he raised our taxes" thread before he was ever inaugurated, the Lott threads...remember when everything was turned into a Lott thread?...the WOT (illegal police action)...drug enforcement (legalize, tax and the problem will solve itself!)...the recall threads, Miers, whether the Iraq Museum "looting" was truth or fiction (but those were ANTIQUE plaster replicas!!)...

There are plenty more I forgot.

2,933 posted on 05/18/2006 11:51:31 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Drugs? Illegals? Legalize and Tax 'Em All, Right? Right??)
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To: Vicomte13

>>>Businesses who withdraw their money from the Republican Party in time of war, even if Republicans enact policies that massively increase the cost of labor, are traitors to America, because they will let the Democrats win.<<<

Worth repeating bump!!!


2,934 posted on 05/18/2006 11:51:56 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: cake_crumb
"There are plenty more I forgot."

Have you read "The Di Vinci Code"?

2,935 posted on 05/18/2006 11:52:44 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: cake_crumb
remember when everything was turned into a Lott thread?

I feel so sad to have missed that. Sounds scintillating. LOL. Certainly the Lott thing ended up being the end of the world.

2,936 posted on 05/18/2006 11:55:08 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: CWOJackson
I've asked you three times now dirtboy. If you don't like the letter that's just TS. A lot of people are sick and tired of your likes claiming to speak for them.

Plenty are in agreement with me - such as a majority of pubbies, according to polls.

Now, one last time, please stop posting to me.

Like I said, quit making false statements and insults against my side, and I will.

2,937 posted on 05/18/2006 11:57:05 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Warren_Piece
Excellent analysis of the Schaivo event. BTW, I LOVE your tagline as well.
2,938 posted on 05/18/2006 11:57:09 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: dirtboy
"Maybe they are screaming because Bush is failing to listen as he takes the GOP over a cliff?"

Because he's saying "WHAT!? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THE NOISE"?

2,939 posted on 05/18/2006 11:58:03 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Drugs? Illegals? Legalize and Tax 'Em All, Right? Right??)
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To: CWOJackson
If you don't like the letter that's just TS.

Sorry, but this is an open forum. If you are going to make goading posts, don't call in the moderators to silence your opposition. And saying it's "TS" is goading.

2,940 posted on 05/18/2006 11:58:29 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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