Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: breakingvanity; cereal; civilized; debate; dignity; fintanwashereandleft; honor; intelligent; juvenileramblings; notfeelinthelovehere; pingpower; reasonable; respect; tpd; trollexorcism; vanity; zotdissenters
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,061-2,0802,081-2,1002,101-2,120 ... 3,681 next last
To: Halgr

I think you are far, far, far too accurate for anyone to take any comfort in your words.

I wish more were so aware.


2,081 posted on 05/17/2006 4:49:03 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2039 | View Replies]

To: BlueStateDepression
But guess what, at the hog rendering plant they pay almost 16 an hour and y9ou wanna know why it is almost all mexican labor there? The non mexican folks got so fed up with all the illegals and all the spanish that they just refused to work there anymore.

Your above stinks more than the hog rendering plant. It's probably jobs that Americans won't do, but you don't want to admit it, so you come up with some lame excuse.

2,082 posted on 05/17/2006 4:49:41 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2073 | View Replies]

To: Torie; dirtboy
This is from the National Journal's Hotline:

2. Karl Rove briefs the House GOP; plaudits from Bill Thomas; doubts from many others. The majority of the majority rule still stands. The bottom line: Bush needs to persuade about 40 House members to change their minds on a guest/temporary/amnesty/whatever program.

2,083 posted on 05/17/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1613 | View Replies]

To: CWOJackson
"Two complaints that go together so often are "selling us out of the border" and "big government spender"."

Glad I'm not the only one whose noticed that. A wall will cost us hundreds of billions of dollars just to build, nevermind man and maintain. And while it's being built the anti-Bush allthetime crowd will be whining about government spending.

2,084 posted on 05/17/2006 4:49:52 PM PDT by Rokke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1791 | View Replies]

To: yellowdoghunter
"do not post to me list".

Yep, I'm on 'the list'. lol

2,085 posted on 05/17/2006 4:49:58 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2070 | View Replies]

To: Vicomte13
I think he IS risking it, but I think that the full magnitude of the BorderBot movement and the cost of its defection is not being properly registered by the decision takers.

I think you are exactly right. I live in Phoenix, I work in Tempe, it is all you hear talked about when you can manage to find people who speak english. They do NOT understand the seriousness or the massive influx and what it has done.

Do you know why there was very little turnout for the rally on May 1st? Because on the last rally, it was announced that there was a 50% absentee rate at many of the schools. That scared the life out of many of the activist here since over 80% of the property tax goes to pay for schools.

2,086 posted on 05/17/2006 4:50:12 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Allow in a legal immigrant for every illegal alien deported.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2014 | View Replies]

To: Pukin Dog
Dog,
I wanted to add this to your comments. I posted this on a thread Fri night, but with your eloquent, and timely comments I am going to put this out there again. The first comment is from the poster to whom it was originally addressed. I know I am getting here a little late (post 2000 +) so no one will probably read this but I still feel it's important. Thank you for your wise words.

"I voted for him. Put his dam signs all over and boy do I regret it. He's destroying this country."

First, President Bush is not destroying this country. Maybe the illegal aliens are damaging the country. Maybe a lot of people are not stopping this from happening, but the President is not destroying this country.
I am amazed at the people who voted for this President twice, and expected him to change to suit their needs.
This President has not changed his position on this issue, or any other since running for office in '99.
For goodness sake he spoke Spanish at a campaign stop during the first campaign.
President Bush does not govern by polls. He does not wet his finger, hold it in the air, and try to figure out which way the political wind is blowing. The last President did that, and we all said we didn't want another one like that regardless of his stance. At least I did.
I didn't support President Bush in the primaries. I didn't think he was conservative enough, and I didn't like that compassionate needed to be added to conservative to make the great unwashed like him. That being said, since he won the primaries, I have supported him every step of the way.
Do I like, or agree with all the things he has done during his presidency? Hell NO, but he is still my PRESIDENT. Not shrub (this is not aimed at you nmh), not bush (lower case, and without Pres. or Mr in front), not the liar, or the RINO in the White house. He is still the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, and deserves the respect accorded to the office.
Also while I don't agree with him on every issue, he is a damn sight better person, leader, everything than the two idiots that opposed him for the office. One of them is a proven traitor who should have been hanged back in the 70's, and never been allowed to run for the office of President.
I dare say all of us who are standing up for the President on these forums want the border secured. I want it secured yesterday. Yes, I think more attention should have been given to the issue since 9-11. But you guys that want to disrespect the Pres. tell me who was the last Pres., or any federal office holder to bring ANY plan for the problem up for discussion. It sure as heck wasn't the last one who was selling our country's security to the Chi-coms, and the Indonesians, and getting hummers to cover it up. By the way, to the poster who had those charts up to show how much better job President Clinton did on deporting illegals, could it possibly be because the law enforcement community has had a little more on their plate since 9-11? Maybe they have been slightly preoccupied with finding young middle eastern men who want to blow us up, and infect us with some God-awful disease, rather than raid construction sites, and landscaping companies.
I don't want them here either, but the realities are if you try and round them up and deport them all, or if you try and cut off services to them, the left in this country, you know the ones we're gonna put in charge this year while we throw our collective temper tantrum, are going to trot out, before the cameras of the drive by media, every sick, hollow cheek dirty faced Mexican child they can find. They are going to file lawsuit, after lawsuit, tying up the actions, not to mention the courts for years to come, all the while scoring the sympathy vote from the 80% of the country who don't read FR. All those Americans who get their news from the Today show, while eating breakfast, saying "look honey, President Bush and the Republicans are starving those people to death. Pass the Corn Flakes." We had a couple of brave Conservatives try to cut off just county services here in Mecklenburg Co. in NC. In 2 hours everyone that supported the issue had been made into Hitler, and Pol Pot rolled into one by the lib politicians, and their willing accomplices in the media. Some are still receiving death threats as a result.
So good luck. I will support any efforts that come down the pipe short of killing, or physically harming. I will stand up and declare that the illegal aliens should not be here, and should not be allowed to come here. I will NOT be disrespectful of my President, allow the Rats to take control of the Congress, or generally throw a giant hissy fit because the solution to a 40 year problem is not served up to us in 6 months. Those of you who do, are making this great forum feel like the DUmp.
Maybe Mexico was able to get all those people across the border in short time, but that was because they WANTED to come HERE!
2,087 posted on 05/17/2006 4:50:17 PM PDT by rikkir (The DUmmies are just "$10 away" from impeachment!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClancyJ

***The democrat party of today is socialistic/communistic and will destroy America.***

Keep lowering the boom, Clancy. They NEED to know about the Communists in the Democrat party.


2,088 posted on 05/17/2006 4:50:18 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1000 | View Replies]

To: onyx; SeaBiscuit
I am NOT a defeatist at all.

Far from it. Your like the football coach rallying the team into the second half!

2,089 posted on 05/17/2006 4:51:05 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1555 | View Replies]

To: cardinal4
I guess Im doing something right! Oh, she has one of those hybrids..

Let her know about the environmental "disaster" her non-earth-friendly car car will create in a serious accident.

2,090 posted on 05/17/2006 4:51:36 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2053 | View Replies]

To: Quix

Hey Quix. I thought you were banned; maybe just "suspended"? I haven't posted in a while so was unaware that you were back.


2,091 posted on 05/17/2006 4:51:49 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2081 | View Replies]

To: streetpreacher; Halgr

If either of you has or starts a NWO ping list, please put me on it.

Thx.


2,092 posted on 05/17/2006 4:51:57 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2072 | View Replies]

To: ClancyJ

I still will not count on him because he is a quitter and we need workers.



I will agree that we do need workers, no, fighters. To take out RINO's anywhere they may be found. Lose the RINO's gain a strong conservative party.


2,093 posted on 05/17/2006 4:52:02 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2074 | View Replies]

To: Smogger; onyx; Cboldt

http://cboldt.blogspot.com/

UPDATE @ 18:35 - S.Amdt.3965 - Cornyn: To require a guest worker to be sponsored by an employer that has attested that no American will take the job, in order to be eligible for permanent residency, was PASSED on a 50 - 48 vote. Pretty much along party lines.


2,094 posted on 05/17/2006 4:53:20 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1935 | View Replies]

To: Vicomte13
"And some people who make angry demands are adults who mean it."

Which takes up back full circle to the (fill in the blank) outraged voters.

2,095 posted on 05/17/2006 4:53:25 PM PDT by CWOJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2066 | View Replies]

To: Vicomte13

Excellent post!
If I ever get in serious trouble, I going to look you up!


2,096 posted on 05/17/2006 4:53:47 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | View Replies]

To: Toby06

When I see people throwing our country away with both hands, I always think of my pop. I'll never dishonor his memory and courage in fighting for this country. He knew it was worth fighting for and so do I.


2,097 posted on 05/17/2006 4:53:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2075 | View Replies]

To: Pukin Dog

Parsley on the plate is about the only thing I would eat if steak is involved. The whole factory farm system just grosses me out. It's not like we are cattle farmers, we are the people who eat the stuff that is factory farmed and our health is failing because of it. Besides, don't most meat packing jobs go to the illegals, doing the work Americans will not do?


2,098 posted on 05/17/2006 4:54:26 PM PDT by Boardwalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rikkir
Yeah, 2000+ posts is a little ridiculous, but dont think your thoughts wont get read. I try to answer every post addressed to me. Nice post. Bush uses his own moral compass, which scares Democrats and some Conservatives to death.
2,099 posted on 05/17/2006 4:54:42 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2087 | View Replies]

To: streetpreacher

Jim was gracious and allowed me back several weeks ago. I was banned--the prophecy about Katrina was seen by some as antipatriotic.

Anyway--Trying hard to stay well clear of any bannable boundaries!

Good to see your name, too.

How about an update on your family to my FREEPMAIL?


2,100 posted on 05/17/2006 4:55:16 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2091 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,061-2,0802,081-2,1002,101-2,120 ... 3,681 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson