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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: EdReform

In honesty, I though it was out in the 700 post mark, not less than 100 like it was.

I named my dog "Sit." I thought it would be cool, but it's a nightmare.


1,701 posted on 05/17/2006 2:10:44 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Pukin Dog
Your words are just what many on this site need to hear. For the last year (at least) and especially for the last few weeks, the tone on FreeRepublic has become nasty, venomous, and VERY un-conservative. I myself have gone into lurker mode, putting my two cents into any discussion only infrequently. Many others, I'm sure have done the same. Getting blasted for an honest opinion, regardless of how defensible, sucks!

Anyway, this was a timely and 'right on' rant. Tip of the hat to you Pukin, and keep on FReepin.

Regards Don C.

1,702 posted on 05/17/2006 2:10:54 PM PDT by Don Carlos ( Term limits for all. Give us back our Republic before its too late!)
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To: pollyannaish
So...Laffey it is. I am assuming you are from RI?

Heavens no. Nebraska. A state so Republican that the Dims are on the endangered species list. IOW, the political paradise most FReepers dream of. Unfortunately, we're not as conservative as we are Republican. That's one reason I focus so much on conservative issues. It does little good to turn a Dim into a Republican. But turn a Dim into a conservative and you've got something.
1,703 posted on 05/17/2006 2:11:05 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CWOJackson

I promise no MOAB until Cougar is back.


1,704 posted on 05/17/2006 2:11:56 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Torie

Another thing that I can't help but wonder about is why hardly anyone seems to be talking about the elephant in the room: That we're debating whether to give citizenship to a minimum of 10 million future Democrats who will turn right around and ship in another minimum 10 million future Democrats. It seems that for some reason talking about the political implications of all this is just taboo, as if that's 'beneath' us or something.

Or maybe there really is this absurd delusion that the illegals will vote Republican once they're granted citizenship. LOL


1,705 posted on 05/17/2006 2:12:02 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: Pukin Dog

This brown-nosing mushy-moderate monologue is "News", while illegal aliens shooting at Americans in a Waffle House is quickly moved to "Chat".


1,706 posted on 05/17/2006 2:12:13 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: pbrown

That is because of the potential for damage for this site by the Bush Whackers.


1,707 posted on 05/17/2006 2:13:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Torie
I think the Sessions amendment can be seen as a signal (or indication) that security and enforcement take precedence.
1,708 posted on 05/17/2006 2:13:14 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Godebert

I wonder if this thread has brought us all closer together...:)


1,709 posted on 05/17/2006 2:13:33 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: prairiebreeze

There will be butter cream icing between the layers.


1,710 posted on 05/17/2006 2:13:40 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: nicmarlo
"I'd say the 10,500,000 coming from the southern border, where there's also an increase of "OTM's" by 137%, deserves greater attention."

Personally, given that the two largest Islamic fundamentalist enclaves (that means centers for the extremists) outside of the Muslim world are in Canada, that we already know those centers played a part in 9/11 and one of their folks was caught trying to bring a car load of explosives into the U.S., I'm actually more concerned with the northern border.

Unlike the southern border, much of the northern border includes vast tracks of forests, lakes, rivers, mountain ranges and the Great Lakes which are harder to observe then the southwest.

1,711 posted on 05/17/2006 2:14:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AntiGuv

It's not just the President who makes us (conservatives) what we are.

In the end, it's us.

I have more faith in our strength after our primary elections here in PA.

We do have the power to make change, if we will only get off of our collective asses and act like true Americans.

If you don't believe me, look what we did here in PA.


1,712 posted on 05/17/2006 2:14:51 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: AntiGuv

I have no idea what you're talking about. I am optimistic the House will hold strong regarding ENFORCEMENT and SECURITY FIRST. Passage of Session's amendment has given me hope.


1,713 posted on 05/17/2006 2:15:16 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: AntiGuv
Another thing that I can't help but wonder about is why hardly anyone seems to be talking about the elephant in the room: That we're debating whether to give citizenship to a minimum of 10 million future Democrats who will turn right around and ship in another minimum 10 million future Democrats.

They never want to discuss that one, AntiGuv. But this will be the last election for the GOP in our lifetimes if they allow this amnesty to go through.
1,714 posted on 05/17/2006 2:15:44 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: wallcrawlr
This thread has morphed into an airing of grievances...here's mine.

What do you think this is? Festivus?
1,715 posted on 05/17/2006 2:15:48 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: George W. Bush

Lucky you.

You have the luxury of voting for more and more conservative candidates with a chance that they can actually win. Here, we just try to get the seats in the R column so that the conservatives can lead. It's all about control.

And it's nice to know I'm something. I used to be a Dim. A dim Dim, because I was a serious liberal to boot. Then of course, I grew up and caught a clue.


1,716 posted on 05/17/2006 2:16:25 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

I haven't been around much, but I'm glad I stumbled across this thread. It's an excellent analysis and right on the money.


1,717 posted on 05/17/2006 2:16:29 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Come on, Gary, act! (I finally saw Team America and am still laughing))
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To: AntiGuv

Well, how they will vote doesn't animate me much. They will vote like Italians voted. They will not be that off out of the mainstream, and polls on issues show that they are only somewhat left or right of center, depending on the issue. In about 3-4 generations, a majority of them will be Republicans. That is about how long it took the Italians. I do have some concern in the meantime, that then Hispanics are 60% of the likely voters in California, they will vote in politicians that remind one of politicians in Mexico. Just a thought.


1,718 posted on 05/17/2006 2:17:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: George W. Bush

Do you reside in a red state?


1,719 posted on 05/17/2006 2:17:16 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

Where there was hope left in Pandora's box. I hope you are right.


1,720 posted on 05/17/2006 2:17:50 PM PDT by Torie
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