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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: CWOJackson
Planet I.D.

1,681 posted on 05/17/2006 2:01:02 PM PDT by evets (Dude.)
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To: Miss Marple

It's 2006, and honey still works better than vinegar.


1,682 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:43 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Jim Robinson
Whoa!


1,683 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:44 PM PDT by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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did I break the thread?


1,684 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:51 PM PDT by evets (oops)
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To: Jim Robinson

The part I liked the best == buy yourself a wife == LOL, please give my best wishes to Sheila.


1,685 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:54 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: DCPatriot
Regarding Dems...don't think that holds true today.

Depends on whether you're talking about the leadership or individuals.
My mother is a democrat and you never saw a more conservative person.

1,686 posted on 05/17/2006 2:03:00 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Vicomte13
It is good. But the border is 2000 miles long. 83 miles are currently fenced. This means that 453 miles will be fenced. Which means that 1547 miles will not be fenced.

Yeah, but if you've ever driven out there, it's clear that this fence will stop most of the current crossings. There's some real moonscape out there in those other 1547 miles.

It's a start. And, unlike immigration bills which are only revisted every 20 years, border security legislation can be beefed up every year.

I try not to be a 100%er. Hopefully, the House will insist on 1000 miles of fence and they can settle on 750.
1,687 posted on 05/17/2006 2:03:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: dirtboy

Current estimates are that we have 11-12 million illegals. It has been almost twenty yrs since Reagan's amnesty. Hence, about 550-600,000 Illegals get in each year. We detain and deport 1.2 Million per yr. Thus, if 1.8 million try and 1.2 are caught about a third make it.

These are rough estimates but seem to be close to reality.


1,688 posted on 05/17/2006 2:03:58 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Pukin Dog
RE: Post # 915 -

WOW!!! You guys bring out the trolls like the Pied Piper brings out rats!

1,689 posted on 05/17/2006 2:04:26 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: trisham

Pukin Dog must be workin' for the CIA. This is one of those troll sting threads.


1,690 posted on 05/17/2006 2:04:43 PM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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bookmark


1,691 posted on 05/17/2006 2:04:49 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: onyx; Mo1; AntiGuv
I don't quite follow your reasoning. Sessions made the Senate bill presumably more attractive to the House with the partial wall thingie. That was his amendment no, or am I all mixed up?

The real issue is the one step versus the two step, or some sort of one and a half step, where things go real slow, until step one (staunching the flow) is achieved. The idea of putting guest workers on a path to citizenship also seems insane. Another insanity is this attempt to distinguish and figure out who has been here how long. Then the parents and the kids and the clan get to pop on in. A final insanity is that the learn English requirement, means enrolling in an English class. Please! The whole thing is a cruel joke and an embarrassment. And the numbers in play, are massive, just massive. Bush and the Senate majority must think voters are stuck on stupid or something. JMO.

1,692 posted on 05/17/2006 2:05:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Quix
deducting say $10,000-25,000 from remittances back to Mexico

There are a lot of countries where I'd like to see US foreign aid dry up. Many more of a priority than Mexico, IMO, but I get your drift. I hope we hang tough with the Palestinians, for instance.

1,693 posted on 05/17/2006 2:05:26 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: zarf
Pukin Dog must be workin' for the CIA. This is one of those troll sting threads.

************

Pukin Dog can do anything. CIA? No sweat for Pukin Dog. :)

1,694 posted on 05/17/2006 2:06:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: airborne; Pukin Dog
I've decided to call it "The Highway of troller death" after that massacre in Iraq during GW1

1,157 posted on 05/17/2006 1:58:32 PM CDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)

1,695 posted on 05/17/2006 2:06:46 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL. Oh yes you can.


1,696 posted on 05/17/2006 2:07:12 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Spiff

My logic is in #1688.


1,697 posted on 05/17/2006 2:07:27 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: CWOJackson
No talk whatsover about the Canadian border? Strengthening the northern border is great, as that side also presents a threat. But seeing as how that's where approximately 500,000 illegals out of the 11,000,000 are coming from, I'd say the 10,500,000 coming from the southern border, where there's also an increase of "OTM's" by 137%, deserves greater attention.

Which side do you think makes more sense to focus plugging before the whole country drowns?

A much different picture at northern border: Canada
By Mason Stockstill | DECEMBER 18, 2005

Immigration experts estimate only a fraction of illegal immigrants who come into the country do so through the northern border. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates out of roughly 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States, fewer than 500,000 are from Canada.

1,698 posted on 05/17/2006 2:07:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Torie; onyx; Mo1
I don't quite follow your reasoning. Sessions made the Senate bill presumably more attractive to the House with the partial wall thingie. That was his amendment no, or am I all mixed up?

You've got it right, but I guessed that onyx meant that the Sessions amendment would lead the House to stand strong with President Bush. It doesn't make much sense any other way.

1,699 posted on 05/17/2006 2:07:53 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: Torie; onyx

Though why anyone here would want the House to stand strong with GWB as he flushes the GOP majority down the toilet for a generation is an open question..


1,700 posted on 05/17/2006 2:08:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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