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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: AntiGuv

I could be wrong .. but I'm not sure the Vitter amendment was voted on yet .. Specter is talking about it now


1,421 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:09 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: The_Victor

I'll ping you Darlin',
but like I said,
they are just disturbing.


1,422 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:30 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: BlueStateDepression
"Maybe I am wrong here, but I think alot of us are going to be surprised by the end legislation. Surprised in a good way that is."

Pass me a shot of whatever you're drinking. (JUST JOKING)

I tend to agree with your sentiment that the Senate is being pressed into action, and agree that we will probably see some (compromise) legislation passed. This will indeed be a first step and good for the country, however, I don't have much hope of it calming some of the outrage we see here every day. Whatever the result, it won't be extreme enough and will be labeled treason.

1,423 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:40 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Mo1

Good point ;)


1,424 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:40 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: DCPatriot
Today, Rush talked about the Herndon Virginia primaries that kicked out all the people responsible for okaying the Day Laborer Shelter.

This news spread to Pennsylvania where certain republicans were trashed in their primaries


The PA primary had nothing whatsoever to do with illegal immigration. It had to do with local elected officials voting themselves a middle of the night 16 to 54% pay raise, without a debate. Democrats who voted for the pay raise were also voted out or saw the writing on the wall and didn't run.

The Virginia situation is directly related to illegal immigration but this primary is not.
1,425 posted on 05/17/2006 12:52:11 PM PDT by Republican Red ("How good is it? Al-Jazeera gave it 4 1/2 pipe bombs")
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To: Conservababe

So now we have a serious proposal to create a No Mans land surrounding the Land of the Free. Sick but perfectly in line with the mentality which believes this is THE major problem the US faces.

I wish you would not conserve your brain you need to use it more and not let emotions run away with your sensibility.


1,426 posted on 05/17/2006 12:52:25 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We have opposing parties. The Republicans vs the RINOs. Hopefully, someday, we'll have enough Republicans to overpower both the RINOs and their Democrat accomplices.

HELL YEAH! That's what a lot of people who were sent on unrequested vacation have been trying to say. They just differ in the methodology for getting there.

1,427 posted on 05/17/2006 12:52:34 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Lead Moderator
Good point ;)

Well, then, perhaps you should not taks sides on a given issue when posting as Lead Moderator if you agree with that point.

1,428 posted on 05/17/2006 12:52:57 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Smogger
To that end the Session amendment has passed. It isn't 2000 miles long, but it is quite a bit larger. I am sure the House will make it even biggger.

The Senate gave the House half 700 miles the House voted for in their bill. It appears to me the Senate is using the extra 350 miles as a barganing chip in exchange for amnesty from the House.
1,429 posted on 05/17/2006 12:53:35 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Pukin Dog

Hey, I didn't get any of this Free perversity. I still have to buy mine :^(


1,430 posted on 05/17/2006 12:53:53 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: gondramB; Lead Moderator; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator; Religion Moderator
Members have rap sheets?

We even keep rapsheets on each other. Three strikes, and you're back to shuffling sidebars on the graveyard shift.

1,431 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Smogger; Rokke
As I recall a Federal judge struck it down. Please spare me the California bashing. The President got more votes from here then from any other state, and the Republican party gets the vast majority of its money from here. Not to mention it's the home of this website.

Correct. A Carter appointed federal judge overturned Prop. 187, and when Gray Davis won the governorship he had his AG drop Governor Wilson's appeal.

1,432 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:20 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog
There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

You can't say it enough!!!!

Shout it from the rooftops.

1,433 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
See Post 1374 by RinaseaofDs

You say it well, Hon. Here Here!!

1,434 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: Steelerfan

I agree. Same to you.


1,435 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:40 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: dirtboy

LM did .. LM said both

And now you want LM to pick one side of the issue


1,436 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:43 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Then ya may not be doin' it right :)


1,437 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:46 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: dirtboy

Yes, boss.


1,438 posted on 05/17/2006 12:55:12 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Jim Robinson

Exactly it is time to NUKE Mexico City. No more pussyfooting around with half measures.


1,439 posted on 05/17/2006 12:55:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Oh, so that is what happen


1,440 posted on 05/17/2006 12:55:37 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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