Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Xeno blew up there. And paid the price for it, which is regretible but correct concidering what was written.
But he was not a troll.
I am.
So you think the mods treat men better than women? :-) Does that mean our female moderators are misogynists? Or maybe the male mods are perfectly fair, while the female mods are throwing themselves at the male posters!
Can't name names; it isn't good form. I was wrong, see # 1,025.
His cause is helped....
Extremely well said "editorial".
Thank you.
I would like to add a comment on the secret of the liberal's long-term success: Patience. They have perfected the art of taking a little at time. They know how to "boil a frog".
Conservatives, on the other hand, want to change the world RIGHT NOW. Only thing is, we can't.
(BTW: I also like your ideas on getting rid of Chaffee. It sends a very useful message...)
Can I get a stiff shot or two in my lemondae, hun?
To that end the Session amendment has passed. It isn't 2000 miles long, but it is quite a bit larger. I am sure the House will make it even biggger.
Senate considering Vitter amendment now:
Removes provisions giving legals status to certain undocumented workers.
"But he was not a troll."
You got that right -- he was far worse than a troll.
Riiight. As evidenced by your anonymous keyword spamming. Like I said, your posting history is available to all. Apparently you don't like discussing issues with anybody.
Makes me long for the days when the posts were just about the Cartel connections to cocaine and other grand conspiracies. Whatever happened to those days?
Exactly.
Slice of watermelon too dear?
Want a shot of vodka in the Lemonade?
Are you suggesting landmines on our SOUTHERN BORDER?
I am.
1,202 posted on 05/17/2006 2:06:23 PM CDT by Conservababe
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UNCONSCIONABLE.
Jim, Jim! Why settle for Bush when we could have total perfection with president Tancredo!
But he was not a troll.
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If you're correct, he'll was suspended rather than banned. Which means he'll be back. I'm inclined to doubt it, but time will tell.
Nonsense. It may change and it may even merge somewhat, but immigration will not destroy these United States. As with all large nations, empires, what have you, it will come from within. The citizens of the respective states already feel entitled to certain programs (i.e. Social Security, healthcare, education, etc) and the Republicans instead of actually governing on limited government principles, are enabling them. And this will be our downfall.
Of course the faulty argument is that no one could get elected on such principles. Yet, many successfully elected Republicans do run on them. Of course when they are elected, duped conservatives realize it is just lip service (one would think these simpletons would wake up sooner or later and quit voting for them. I don't vote for them because I know, as do many other conservative libertarians already know what they're going to do). Bush even pandered a bit in 2000, but it's clear the President who never met a spending bill he didn't like, has not governed as such.
Of course, then arises the other faulty argument, 'there's a war on' or some such nonsense. This does not explain the massive growth in government on the domestic policies. Now a more cynical person (not me of course) would state that Republicans and Democrats have ramped up such spending in an effort to appease the citizens of the respective states while they continue to centralize such issues as domestic spying, providing 'safety', etc in Washington DC. the massive growth in government on the domestic policies. Of course what has history told us time and again about such protection policies? In the end, they will work against those that advocated their usage in protection of freedom or they will be used to remove what the State considers its 'enemies' (i.e. anyone who disagrees with State policies).
Once our culture, our social institutions and, yes, our representative government(make no mistake they will become voters) is changed by the massive influx of uneducated, low skilled, socialist leaning, illegal aliens the United States, as we have known it and as the Founders intended it to be, will cease to exist.
Can't say as I agree with that. Uneducated by your standards perhaps. Socialist leaning? This differs from the majority of the citizens of the respective states (and their representation on both sides for the most part) how again? However, let me stop here and state I agree with many of your principles on immigration. I also note that Republicans will do nothing but pay lip service to it. That's what politicians are good at.
What to do? Well as I stated I do not follow Republicans or Democrats. I lean libertarian, and vote my conscience. I do not care which party gets what, when, and how. A super majority of either party will neither alleviate or move to fix the problems that face this nation of states, mainly limitation of the federal government against the citizens of the respective states and more importantly against the states themselves.
I think many of the faithful need to step back and read the words of General Washington in his Farewell Address. He warned of the 'spirit of parties'. If nothing else, this thread has shown ignorance of that warning. More are concerned with which party will get into office, treating it as some panacea, than which candidate best represents the views of their respective constituencies. If I do not find a candidate at the national level on the ballot I do not agree with, I leave that race blank. That is what we should all do if we are to follow the vision of the Framers. Unfortunately, too many are willing to follow the desire of party, the right 'team' if you will. A decade from now, if by some minute chance multiple parties have not arisen, there may be a situation where one party gains a super majority. And when still nothing has changed, perhaps the faithful can supply another excuse for why a move hasn't been made to shrink government to some semblance of recognition.
Note, this does not work against removing those from power that do not recognize the Constitution or the intended limitations on the federal government. It merely recognizes that not all liberals are on one side of the aisle. Enabling those that happen to be on the 'right' team by voting their team into the majority does not help either.
Good day
Look, I'm really sorry we can't be friends.
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