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DNA hints at Jill the Ripper
Herald Sun ^ | 17 May 2006 | Jade Bilowol

Posted on 05/16/2006 8:48:57 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

JACK the Ripper could well be a Jill.

In a bid to crack the identity of one of the greatest murder mysteries of all time, technology developed in Australia has tested 118-year-old DNA the notorious serial killer may have left behind and built a partial female profile. Scientist Ian Findlay today said the partial profile had been created from saliva possibly from the Ripper on the back of stamps on the envelopes of letters sent to London police.

Most of the 600 or so letters claiming to have come from the Ripper – who butchered at least five prostitutes in London's East End in 1888 – have been dismissed as hoaxes but a few are thought to be genuine.

Brisbane-based Professor Findlay said he used his method, called Cell Track-ID, capable of extracting and compiling a DNA fingerprint from a single cell or strand of hair up to 160 years old.

It can amplify information from a single cell and is hundreds of times more powerful than DNA profiling techniques used by crime fighting bodies such as the FBI that require at least 200 human cells.

"It's possible the Ripper could be female but the results are inconclusive," said Prof Findlay, who is the chief scientific officer at the Gribbles Molecular Science forensic lab.

He said because the samples were so old, very small and poorly preserved, only a partial profile was built that "didn't reach forensic standards" nor identified an individual.

"It shows the technology works ... the FBI lab in Virginia got no profiles ... but the samples were just too difficult," Prof Findlay said.

The partial profile was built from what is known as the Openshaw letter.

"The Dear Boss letter, said to have blood stains from (victim number five) Mary Kelly had a male profile so it wasn't the blood of Mary Kelly," he also said.

Prof Findlay tested hair and debunked the belief it was from another mutilated victim, Catherine Eddowes.

The detective in charge of the case, Frederick Abberline, suggested the Ripper was a woman following claims Ms Kelly was seen hours after she was killed.

Abberline believed this was the killer escaping in Kelly's clothes.

Mary Pearcey was the only female suspect and was convicted and hanged for killing her lover's wife shortly after the Ripper murders – and reportedly used the same modus operandi.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: feminists; jacktheripper; jilltheripper
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Ever see "Amazon Women on the Moon"? That claim is made very credibly in that movie!


41 posted on 05/17/2006 5:44:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: martin_fierro
Yikes!

Nice choppers, there.

42 posted on 05/17/2006 5:49:58 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (I will not need to come here again…I will send my android instead.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Great. They just identified the old lady at the post office.


43 posted on 05/17/2006 5:52:33 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
More importantly, Jack the Ripper couldn't have been a Freemason!

Here is the background. "Jill" was denied membership in the Freemasons, so she went on a killing spree, leaving evidence of a Masonic ritualist killing in each incident.

44 posted on 05/17/2006 5:53:43 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: martin_fierro

I'll bet she could eat an apple through a picket fence.


45 posted on 05/17/2006 6:00:32 AM PDT by 75thOVI (A walk across the depths of America's economic understanding, wouldn't moisten your toes.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Jack the Ripper was a composite for three Amish teenagers.


46 posted on 05/17/2006 6:22:18 AM PDT by TET1968 (If less is more then nothing is everything.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
This is all wrong.

Jack the Ripper was really married to Jill and they had a child thus continuing the "Ripper Bloodline" throughout the centuries.

In 1995 secret documents were uncovered by Scotland yard explaining the formation of the priory of gumshoes and their sacred mission to protect the secret of that bloodline.

Among the grand masters were Sherlock Holmes, Winston Churchill, and Sean Connery.

It's the greatest coverup in law enforcement history.
47 posted on 05/17/2006 6:23:36 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

All she wanted was her tree-fiddy.


48 posted on 05/17/2006 6:27:01 AM PDT by Malacoda (The Posting Police need an enema.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Rumor has it, that the heirs to that bloodline moved to America and rose to political prominence in the state of Arkansas and that one of the "Ripper's" descendants even became president.


49 posted on 05/17/2006 6:36:29 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: nopardons
I don't think Cornwall came near proving her case. I discount the celebrity suspects because the proponents have so much invested in the "scandal factor".

Who's the most likely suspect in your opinion?

50 posted on 05/17/2006 6:58:46 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: martin_fierro

She's no looker, that's for sure. What is the matter with her lower jaw? (If it's a healed traumatic injury to the mandible, that's probably why she appears to have such a rotten overbite.)


51 posted on 05/17/2006 7:02:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: miss marmelstein
The "Believe it or BS" segment of the movie was where I saw it.
52 posted on 05/17/2006 7:04:12 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I believe most thought Jack to be a prominent member of society, so the stamp was most likely placed on the envelope by a house servant and placed in the post.
53 posted on 05/17/2006 7:10:13 AM PDT by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: nopardons
I'm an avid Ripperologist, but this article is THE most ridiculous, stupid, far out there theory, I have EVER heard or read. And since I've read just about every "RIPPER" book out there

Obviously not all of them. I can name of a couple even more more ridiculous, stupid, far out theories.

54 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:52 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: PzLdr
My money's still on Druitt.

I rate the chances of it being Druitt as less thnn 50%, so I wouldn't put the rent money on him, but MscNaghten's prime suspect looks better for it than anyone else. (second place to person or persons unknown)

55 posted on 05/17/2006 8:13:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Have you read Patrica Cornwell's book about it? According to her, the real Jack the Ripper was some man who came to the US around the turn of the century and died here.


56 posted on 05/17/2006 8:17:16 AM PDT by MissEdie
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Starring the great Henry "Did I take this job for a quick buck?" Silva. Isn't it a great movie?


57 posted on 05/17/2006 8:31:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: nopardons
"I'm an avid Ripperologist, but this article is THE most ridiculous, stupid, far out there theory, I have EVER heard or read."

I agree. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the physical evidence can recognise that there is little, if any, chance that Jack was a Jill.

58 posted on 05/17/2006 8:38:39 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


59 posted on 05/17/2006 9:07:55 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Oztrich Boy
Which ones?

The Masonic one was stupid.

Prince Eddy was "fun", but also dumb.

James Maybrick's diary is a hoax.

Shall I continue? :-)

60 posted on 05/18/2006 12:27:19 AM PDT by nopardons
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