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GOP Drifting Toward Disaster
Human Events Online ^ | 5/12/06 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 05/13/2006 1:06:40 AM PDT by wotan

With Senate Republicans “drifting toward disaster” on immigration, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said it’s up to President Bush to reconnect with the majority of Americans who support a strong enforcement-first approach.

Bush will deliver a primetime speech to the nation Monday night on immigration—kicking off what is expected to be a tumultuous time in Washington as Senate and House Republicans clash on the best way to deal with immigration reform.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; bush; closetheborder; enforcementfirst; gingrich; gop
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To: wotan
I don't look for anything good out of the President's speech on Monday. I suspect he will push the Senate Bill, but make a big deal of "enforcement" - which will never happen on his watch. It never has to now.

Bush has always been for "expanding" the GOP. For some odd reason he thinks importing tens of millions of socialist-minded third-worlders from Mexico and Latin America will somehow bulge GOP ranks and coffers.

IMHO he also thinks his ability to speak Spanish has made him wiser than the rest of us in these matters. I think it has colored his judgment. He thinks because he speaks the same language as the invaders they will remain on friendly terms and are "just family". Also, I believe he is influenced by his wife on this issue (she tends to be socially Liberal, I believe). Plus, his brother Jeb has a Mexican wife. No doubt this relationship also affects his judgment.

If Bush were to truly be in the center, he would be strongly pushing border enforcement (as are most Americans) and no amnesty for illegals (also the position of most Americans). He is not. So, he will continue to throw useless platitudes at closing the borders while winking about 30 or 35 million new dirt-poor socialists to be let into this country to do Lord knows what, all the while asking how we expect to round up and "deport" 12 million people - as if Mexico hasn't figured out how to deport them to us!

What we are going to do with these new tens of millions of undereducated, non-English speaking peoples (other than put most of them on welfare) when they get here and have to obey our laws for a change and not work under the table living 20 to a trailer? Are they all of a sudden going to be "Americans"? There's no way they can be educated or assimilated. They will financially break our country, hugely increase our already struggling resident underclass, overwhelm our social services and largely reject our culture for their own. And that's if they decide not to LaRaza a quarter of the country back to Mexico.

Of course, "we" will have cheap pool boys, gardeners, nannies and lettuce pickers for a short while (until they figure out either how to scam the system or vote themselves rich). And the Democrats will have a ticket to political power until they can finally destroy this country forever by economically breaking it and ultimately turning it over to the Islamists.

Yugoslavia, here we come - if we're lucky! Otherwise, it is possible civil war ending with being forceably joined to the Ummah.

We are in a war folks, not only for the survival of our country from Islam, but the survival of our Constitution Republic and freedoms which stand in the way of the political power of the globalists, the greedy and the shortsighted.

61 posted on 05/13/2006 10:53:07 AM PDT by Gritty (Amnesty will change us from being a neighbor of Latin America to becoming a part of it-Diana West)
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To: A CA Guy
Sometimes I get the impression the Democrats are more interested in their own power than in what is best for America.

You're half right. They area interested in their own power. But they are doing what they think is best for the rest of us knucklehead Americans.
62 posted on 05/13/2006 10:55:01 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: spatso
"So, where do the single issue conservatives go? Do they vote democratic? Not likely."

The big question isn't so much about "where do they go?" it's about "do they go at all?" As in do they show up at the polls?

63 posted on 05/13/2006 11:01:02 AM PDT by Nova
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To: CyberAnt

Yep, the Executive Office is only one branch of our governemnt. The rest need to get off their keisters and earn their pay.


64 posted on 05/13/2006 11:04:51 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: laconic
Bush is very concerned about the borders of Anbar Province but he could care less about OUR border in Arizona.

I don't care for Bush's law policy toward our border with Mexico either, but it is silly to suggest there is any genuine and substantial equivalence between the threats from the al Qaeda infiltrating Anbar Province and the threats from Mexican laborors infiltrating the US across the Arizona border. Apples and oranges. Or, perhaps more aptly, grenades and avocados.

65 posted on 05/13/2006 11:05:03 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Nova

I think they are going to show Newt's speech on cSpan today from Iowa. I'm not counting him out yet.


66 posted on 05/13/2006 11:06:12 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Nova

Like, any single issue conservative will miss the opportunity to cast the deciding vote against Hilarity. As unhappy as some conservatives may be, they need to take a deep breath, hold their nose and vote.


67 posted on 05/13/2006 11:11:18 AM PDT by spatso
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To: Arizona Carolyn
"Newt's speech on cSpan today from Iowa"

Thanks. It's not listed on my "Guide" screen (DirecTV) but I'm watching for it.

68 posted on 05/13/2006 11:37:05 AM PDT by Nova
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To: CyberAnt
Well .. it's the rest of them who need the re-indoctrination. I place blame where it's due .. and nobody in the govt comes out of this unscathed.

Isn't it the truth? You know, with the whole immigrantion hysteria going on, I accessed the White House official site and read the President's response on the issue and the position he layed out, very specifically, point by point. It was nothing of the nonsense you hear on TV and from pandering political hacks. It was all very sound, even if I'm not too pleased with some aspects nor implementation.

I'm very hopeful, and that hope is being fulfilled as I see it recently, that Tony Snow will provide a great deal of success in the effort of this adminstration to get it's message out and define the debate.

As it has been recently, the "Lame Stream Media/Propaganda Machine" has overwhelmed the prior Press Secretary and managed to silence the President's message. Scott McClellan was slapped around like a little girl. The rules have been redefined and it's a different game now that Snow has taken command.

69 posted on 05/13/2006 11:41:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: spatso
"they need to take a deep breath, hold their nose and vote."

Do you know the South Park episode about the election between the Giant Douche and the S##t Sandwich?

If Newt runs in '08 it'll be one of those rare exceptions where I can vote with a smile and an un-pinched nose.

70 posted on 05/13/2006 11:47:05 AM PDT by Nova
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To: Nova
I'd love to vote for Newt in '08.

I'd love to do that, too, if only the Newtster were not, along with being one of the brigthtest people on the planet (as he would say) also one of the cockiest people on the planet.

I truly love him as a thinker but his is not a personality that could gracefully handle the top job, IMO.

71 posted on 05/13/2006 11:53:51 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: JCEccles
I don't care for Bush's law policy toward our border with Mexico either, but it is silly to suggest there is any genuine and substantial equivalence between the threats from the al Qaeda infiltrating Anbar Province and the threats from Mexican laborors infiltrating the US across the Arizona border. Apples and oranges. Or, perhaps more aptly, grenades and avocados.

It's not just Mexican Laborers coming across the border. There are lots of Middle Easterners also coming across our southern border as well. Not to mention all the armed to the teeth drug trafficers poring across our southern border as well. These drug runners are so heavily armed that all local law enforcement and Border Patrol agencies can do is follow them at a safe distance and take pictures. They are way too out gunned to confront these drug runners.

A few years back, during the run up to the beginning of the Iraq war, I was watching John Walsh's show, "America's Most Wanted" and he was doing a show on our southern border with the border patrol. They were showing a group of about 30 Iraqi's that just got busted walking across the border. Claimed they were looking for Hollywood.

They even interviewed a couple of "coyotes" and even they were leery of guiding Middle Easterners across the border. They said the Middle Easterners were very intimidating and the only reason they would guide them over the border with other illegals is that the Middle Easterners were paying 10 grand and up for their services.

The Border Patrol spokesman on the show told John Walsh that between 9/11 and the time of the show (early 2003) that several thousand Middle Easterners had been apprehended trying to cross the border in Arizona alone. I doubt that someone paying 10 grand and up just to get into America is just looking for work.

72 posted on 05/13/2006 12:00:27 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: AmericaOne
I'm not into victimhood, defeatism, thumb-sucking, and retreat.

Not my style.

I say, we shift into fourth gear and blow the doors off Pelosi's and Reid's little blue clown car.

Forward! No retreat!!

Try it. Make the decision and notice how much better you feel INSTANTLY.

73 posted on 05/13/2006 12:04:30 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Nova

I switched over there last night and they named two speechs that were supposed to be shown today -- I forget the first speech, but Newt caught my ear.


74 posted on 05/13/2006 12:10:29 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CyberAnt

Right now the Dems are playing what I'm calling the Trojan Horse play -- they have decided they are for strong borders and people like Pederson (who is running against Kyl here in AZ) are playing it like a fiddle in the ads. I say Trojan Horse, because I don't believe that -- or Pelosi saying they've changed their minds about impeachment and anyone who does is a fool.


75 posted on 05/13/2006 12:12:40 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Nova

If the choice is between Hilarity and a ham sandwich, I'm betting your still voting.


76 posted on 05/13/2006 12:16:39 PM PDT by spatso
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL(Literally)


77 posted on 05/13/2006 12:19:26 PM PDT by DManA
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To: tcrlaf

I was making a joke of the obvious T.


78 posted on 05/13/2006 12:34:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JCEccles
I'm not into victimhood, defeatism, thumb-sucking, and retreat.

Neither am I! I'd personally hate to see the RATS take charge at any time. But a lot of "rank and file" conservatives and republicans are now at the end or very near the end of their patience with the GOP.

If this Shamnesty/Amnesty Bill passes, those "rank and file" voters who aren't as active as we are in politics or political discussion will see this as a sell out of themselves and America as a whole and will sit home this election or vote 3rd party. They will see no major difference between the RATS and GOP and will probably just stay home and likely drop out of politics all together. That is why the usual scare tactics that Rove and the rest are throwing around will not work this time. People are very angry, fed up and if this Shamnesty/Amnesty Bill passes and is signed into law, will not care one iota whether the Rats or GOP wins this falls elections.

BTW, did you read my post #72? I'm merely pointing out to you that it is not just your average, run of the mill illegal alien laborer looking for work who is sneaking across our southern border! A lot of very dangerous drug smugglers and potentially dangerous Middle Easterners are also poring across our souther border as well.

President Bush and the rest should be looking at this whole border situation as a national security concern and not just an immigration concern.

79 posted on 05/13/2006 12:38:24 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: wotan
With Senate Republicans “drifting toward disaster” on immigration, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said it’s up to President Bush to reconnect with the majority of Americans who support a strong enforcement-first approach.

Newt, you're getting closer but you made a mistake at the end. The majority of Americans don't support an "enforcement-first approach", they support an enforcement only approach.
80 posted on 05/13/2006 12:38:25 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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