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Cigar makers burned by fakes
The Washington Times ^ | 5-9-06 | Curt Anderson

Posted on 05/09/2006 11:58:00 AM PDT by JZelle

MIAMI -- Cigar aficionados beware: Those handmade Montecristos, Cohibas and Romeo y Julietas aren't necessarily premium smokes. Law-enforcement and cigar industry officials say counterfeiters are marketing millions of dollars in fake upscale cigars, some even pretending to be authentic Cubans that are illegal to sell in the United States. A crackdown uncovered several major counterfeit operations, including one in Miami that resulted in the seizure of more than $20 million in fake stogies, labels and packaging.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cigar; cuban; dominican; montechristo
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To: null and void

Was it green?..........


21 posted on 05/09/2006 12:51:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I love those. You get a great smoke when you don't have the time for a full size cigar.

OTOH, give me a Macanudo and a free hour or so to smoke them and I'm good to go!

I got some Cohibas from Thompson cigars and I wasn't too impressed or maybe their reputation is so vaunted, they didn't live up to it. I've got one left though so who knows, maybe I got a bad batch which happens.
22 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:21 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: JZelle
Ran into some fake COHIBA'S, in the cigar shop at the Nugget in Vegas. They were the yellow labels, from Cuba, only had 4 rows of dots, and said Caribbeans finest, in fine print.
You gotta watch out.

Picked up a box of Conga's from La Perla, 42 bucks for a box of 20. Damn fine cigars, consistent in manufacture and burn, with a medium full taste. I recommend them to all.
23 posted on 05/09/2006 12:59:19 PM PDT by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: JZelle

I think those were Italian cigars...a friends' father coined the name Guinea Stinkers for the ones his friend smoked.


24 posted on 05/09/2006 1:00:03 PM PDT by gundog
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To: Lx
"You get a great smoke when you don't have the time for a full size cigar."

I'm a tobacco lover in al its inceptions, smoking Marlboro Reds or rolling my own cigarettes, dipping Copenhagen, and smoking Backwoods when I feel llike a cigarillo.

On those formal occaissions which seem to be very few and far between these days, I like a good Drew Estates Acid.

I've tried many of the top dollar cigars, and with the possible exception of the Ghurkas, prefer the spicier Acids to the more conventionally aged cigars and find that others tend to find them less offensive.

Although I prefer a pipe in more northerly climes, I still like Middleton's apple pipe tobacco in the fall and winter...

25 posted on 05/09/2006 1:14:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: martin_fierro

You're a cigar afficianado?

Do you know of a reliable low-cost online vendor you would recommend for me? I need to get some cigars for a bachelor party.


26 posted on 05/09/2006 1:16:24 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: JZelle

Back when I would smoke an occasional cigar, I liked Fuente Fuente Opus X.


27 posted on 05/09/2006 1:25:20 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: SC DOC

Ditto.

My pusher tells me, he is having a difficult time acquiring stock. Apparently, the storms last year did more damage to tobacco than thought.


28 posted on 05/09/2006 1:30:50 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Democrats are, just, socialists without the honesty.)
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To: JZelle; MotleyGirl70; Cagey

Kramer : You got cigars , huh .

Jerry : I got some Cubans for George's wedding . They were more than I wanted to pay for but what the hell !

Kramer : Oh yeah baby . spit , spit . What are these ? " Perducto de Peru " Jerry , if you think these are Cubans you have another thing coming .

Jerry : Peru ! I paid $300 bucks for these . I could have bought a house in Peru for $300 bucks !


29 posted on 05/09/2006 1:36:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SC DOC

I love the Opus X and they're not as difficult to get as people think, you just need to be willing to pay for them. I bought two boxes in Vegas last winter. However, if you go to the right sources, you can get GENUINE Cubans at a very good price.


30 posted on 05/09/2006 1:39:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Larry Lucido; Cagey

Todd Gack unavailable for comment.


31 posted on 05/09/2006 1:40:54 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Petronski

Save the cigar money for the strippers! :-)

Seriously though, try Cigarsinternational.com, their prices are as good as anything out there. If most of the people don't smoke cigars that often, you will probably want to stick with a milder one. Try their specials you should be able to get a box of 20 for under $100.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/catDisp.asp?cat=4


32 posted on 05/09/2006 1:45:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Petronski

Me likee:

http://www.bestcigarprices.com/

http://www.jrcigars.com/

http://nickscigarworld.com/

http://www.drewestate.com/


33 posted on 05/09/2006 1:55:24 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Inexpensive and smokable. Flavor not overpowering.
Try the rum. Chicks dig 'em...

34 posted on 05/09/2006 1:59:47 PM PDT by AndrewB
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To: MotleyGirl70; Larry Lucido

Finally, it's Summer!

35 posted on 05/09/2006 2:02:20 PM PDT by Cagey (Doesn't play well with others)
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To: SW6906

Cohiba ping!


36 posted on 05/09/2006 2:05:52 PM PDT by namsman
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To: Cagey; Larry Lucido

Cagey and Larry, we seriesly need to get one of those t-shirts!


37 posted on 05/09/2006 2:08:18 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: martin_fierro

Pink Owl was always my favorite.


38 posted on 05/09/2006 2:17:54 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: MotleyGirl70
we seriesly need to get one of those t-shirts!

I'll get a hold of my friend, Bob Sacamano. He works at a silk screening company over in Jersey and I'm sure he can get his hands on some.

39 posted on 05/09/2006 2:27:46 PM PDT by Cagey (Doesn't play well with others)
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To: JZelle



Ok, maybe someone knowledgable can comment on this.
I've been under the impression that Castro ran out all the top cigar families (capitalist pigs) and screwed up the tobacco fields through years of over fertilization. So now, Cuban cigars have little value aside from a status symbol and the old families that were displaced around the region, like Dominican Republic, have been producing superior cigars but they just don't have that marketing edge of being "Cuban".


40 posted on 05/09/2006 2:30:14 PM PDT by james500
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