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To: eeevil conservative
blame it on Ambien....it works for the Kennedy's.......

That kills me. He is being treated for pain pill abuse, but was on ambien at the time of the crash. Thats a sleep aid, not a pain pill. Ambien, believe it or not IS sought after for abuse. It sounds like Patches has more problems than than just pain meds.

This presents a difficult dilemma for me- I cant badmouth him for his troubles, as I have been in similar situations. But Im a firm beliver in The Steps. And if worked vigorously and often, one can change the behaviors that led to and sustain addiction. The massive humbling, the total surrender to the addiction this produces, lets one start over again. This wont earn me kudos here, but I hope treatment works for him. I believe that once someone tries to exorcise the demons that cause him or her to drink or take drugs, and does it wholly and completely, even a Kennedy can change. I just hope the treatment isnt a ploy to avoid prosecution..

91 posted on 05/07/2006 6:13:54 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: cardinal4
When a dem lies thru their teeth we're supposed to accept the lies without question.

Any questions makes us evil.

118 posted on 05/07/2006 6:22:16 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: cardinal4
This wont earn me kudos here

Quite to the contrary, my friend. It more than does you credit.

133 posted on 05/07/2006 6:26:49 AM PDT by Bahbah (“KERRY LIED!! SCHOLARLY ATTRIBUTION DIED!!!”)
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To: cardinal4
I don't think people here are nearly as interested in roasting him for his problems, as they are just sick and tired of his entire family's behavior....

1) this guy has had MULTIPLE problems, but it seems his "seeking treatment" is not really about changing his life or behavior- but more a mere going through the motions in order to evade accountability so he can keep his job and continue his behavior

2) The Cover-up is the most disturbing.

3) The lies about this incident is just insulting to our intelligence...(I never asked for special treatment- but I don't remember a thing........I was not drinking- but no comment on if I was at the club you hear of in the news......

4) And of course the MOST insulting thing to us, is the MEDIA's handling of the situation...no focus on PATTY.. NO! they focus on "the dangers of Ambien" and the battle of police turf between older officers that embrace special treatment for the elitists (protecting the politicos instead of the PEOPLE), and the new blood who have their hands tied form doing their jobs....

can you imagine...becoming a police officer and then realizing that your are really just mere body guards and servants of the people who think they are ABOVE the laws you thought you were supposed to be ENFORCING?

UGH!

137 posted on 05/07/2006 6:27:25 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (The NEW Axis of Evil.......Bush, SUV's, and AMBIEN..........................)
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To: cardinal4
100% right on, card. Having been married to alcoholic and priveleged to find friendship and great help in the AA and al-Anon rooms, I think recovered addicts are some of the finest people I've ever met, and abandoning ego and total surrender is a must to recovery, IMO. The Mayo program may employ the 12-step program, but sure doesn't mention it.

Patrick is also imbued with the inalienable Kennedy right to blarney, when necessary.

639 posted on 05/07/2006 10:00:19 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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