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Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?
1 posted on 04/26/2006 7:15:17 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?

It looks that way.

2 posted on 04/26/2006 7:17:59 PM PDT by c-b 1
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the problem here is - even though the only people who actually stand for border enforcement are the solid republicans in the house and senate - that message isn't going to get out, because the message from the white house isn't in unity with them. so we have a fractured, diluted message from our side.

imagine anyone thinking the Dems are for anything other then amnesty.


3 posted on 04/26/2006 7:20:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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For better or for worse, President Bush is the face of the Republican Party to the average person. And he's not exactly hard-core on immigration. And most other Republicans have been too timid to take a strong stance.

So, I'm not terribly surprised by this.


4 posted on 04/26/2006 7:23:08 PM PDT by B Knotts
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Now 42 percent trust Democrats more on this issue while 35 percent trust the GOP.

A fool and his money vote are soon parted.

7 posted on 04/26/2006 7:27:49 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Are liberals born stupid, or do they have to work at it???)
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Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?

I wouldn't give them that much credit. The GOP couldn't find their @sses with both hands, let alone slit their own throats. No, the conservatives are teaching them a lesson--hang us out to dry and we'll do likewise with you.

8 posted on 04/26/2006 7:28:03 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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Well half the Repubs want the illegals declared okay and the other half wants a crack down.

Now about this poll - are they including traditional Democratic voters like illegals, felons, people who are too young, etc. Or was it a poll of people who matter?


9 posted on 04/26/2006 7:28:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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The joke is that it's the Dems who want illegal immigration, because they get the illegal votes. But the Republicans have been so rock-headed stupid on this issue that it makes it very easy for the Dems to lie and get away with it.

More and more, the two parties seem to be competing as to which can be the stupider. At the moment, the Republicans seem to have the lead. When they go to the polls, the voters will have a choice. Not which is the best candidate, but which is the least worst candidate, dumb or dumber.


10 posted on 04/26/2006 7:28:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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While I believe the GOP is committing suicide; the Dems are lying as usual right through their teeth. I mean aren't these illegals their voters? LOL


13 posted on 04/26/2006 7:31:20 PM PDT by freekitty
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The poll indicated only 26 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of the protesters who engaged in massive rallies for illegal immigrants. Fifty-four percent have an unfavorable view.

Isn't that interesting

14 posted on 04/26/2006 7:31:47 PM PDT by austinite
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The press wants us to believe everything they say. I say bs.


15 posted on 04/26/2006 7:31:49 PM PDT by freekitty
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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean declares enforcement of the border his party's top priority.

Where is the Democrat bill to build a fence? Talk is cheap but it seems that many have decided to trust the Democrats.

Here is their plan.

16 posted on 04/26/2006 7:34:47 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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Huh? What Democrat wants to enforce the law? If anything they want more illegals in, on assistance, and voting ASAP.


19 posted on 04/26/2006 7:38:24 PM PDT by rbg81
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It's really a simple thing to get ahead in the polls. All one must do is argue for both sides of the issue and have 90% of the press on your side and therefore never get questioned about it...that way you make both sides happy, although it's only because they don't know what you stand for.


20 posted on 04/26/2006 7:38:48 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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It's really a simple thing to get ahead in the polls. All one must do is argue for both sides of the issue and have 90% of the press on your side and therefore never get questioned about it...that way you make both sides happy, although it's only because they don't know what you stand for.


21 posted on 04/26/2006 7:38:48 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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By emphasizing enforcement of the law

When the hell have Democrats ever done that?

World Nut Daily at its finest.

24 posted on 04/26/2006 7:42:15 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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This "poll" is proof that America has a lot of mental retards running around loose and participating in "polls." I guess that's better than having them pick their noses and wiping it on other people.


25 posted on 04/26/2006 7:45:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the importation of Mexican poverty to the USA. Build a wall on the border now!)
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Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?

Set on?

They've already done it.

27 posted on 04/26/2006 7:50:12 PM PDT by skip_intro
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If the democrats win, any talk about border security will go down the drain.


30 posted on 04/26/2006 7:53:42 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Another poll found two-thirds of Americans think it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws.

That is where Congress (and yes our President) is out of sync with the voters. What worries me more than the details of any bill, is that when it comes to enforcement, we will not do any better than we are now. I am not from Missouri, but I am in a "show me" state of mind. The direction we seem to be going, is a cart before the horse direction. And I don't think immigrants, illegal or otherwise, is the end of the greatness of the American experiment. In the long term, I remain optimistic. But the numbers in play are just too large, and a new regime without enforcement will just add fuel to the fire.

If anyone disagrees with the above, have at me.

31 posted on 04/26/2006 7:54:22 PM PDT by Torie
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Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?

Sure the Republicans are alienating their base voters, but on the bright side, they picked up 10 illegal alien voters to replace their millions of former base voters.

/S

41 posted on 04/26/2006 8:09:11 PM PDT by RJL
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