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To: Aussie Dasher
Another poll found two-thirds of Americans think it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws.

That is where Congress (and yes our President) is out of sync with the voters. What worries me more than the details of any bill, is that when it comes to enforcement, we will not do any better than we are now. I am not from Missouri, but I am in a "show me" state of mind. The direction we seem to be going, is a cart before the horse direction. And I don't think immigrants, illegal or otherwise, is the end of the greatness of the American experiment. In the long term, I remain optimistic. But the numbers in play are just too large, and a new regime without enforcement will just add fuel to the fire.

If anyone disagrees with the above, have at me.

31 posted on 04/26/2006 7:54:22 PM PDT by Torie
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To: sinkspur

What do you think of my point of view?


32 posted on 04/26/2006 7:55:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
If anyone disagrees with the above, have at me.

No disagreement here.

In fact, I'm against any bill because they won't enforce it. They've all earned my cynicism.

33 posted on 04/26/2006 7:57:14 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the freeper formerly known as dubyaismypresident, Blackwell for governor Ohio '06)
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To: Torie

of course, any real bill would involve putting the sticks before the carrots. A 2 year period of employer/landlord sanctions, increased border security, fence construction, et al. if that is shown to be working, then we can talk about the carrots - guest workers, more green cards, etc.

my own hope - is that nothing happens. we have 2 national elections coming up in the next 2.5 years, let this be an issue that candidates debate on, and let the voters provide some consensus about what direction they want to go.


34 posted on 04/26/2006 8:00:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Sabertooth

Just in case you are still lurking my friend. I really have to struggle with this issue, unlike on some others, where I think I "know" the answer (at least I think I do, in perhaps my blissful ignorance).


45 posted on 04/26/2006 8:12:06 PM PDT by Torie
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