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1 posted on 04/26/2006 6:35:01 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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You can be darned sure that it is nowhere near $75 a barrel.
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Yes. You got it.


2 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:17 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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What about refining costs? And marketing/distribution? Taxes?


3 posted on 04/26/2006 6:38:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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Ben Stein was on the Rush show yesterday with the guest host. He talked a great deal about the gas prices, that the high prices are due to traders. It is an interesting interview, well worth the 22 minutes he was on.


4 posted on 04/26/2006 6:38:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society.)
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I'm old enough to remember the gas lines back in the '70s.
Let's see what the summer brings.
Memories...


5 posted on 04/26/2006 6:39:19 PM PDT by Sabatier
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In fact, I read that it is somewhere

/johnny

6 posted on 04/26/2006 6:39:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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The oil companies are going to get market value for the oil the pump. That's a fact. If they can't get market rate in the US, they will sell it on the world market.

Unless you want government imposed prices and subsequent shortages, oil will command the market rate no matter where it is pumped.


8 posted on 04/26/2006 6:40:14 PM PDT by MediaMole
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Speculators are driving up oil prices, utilizing geopolitical and supply based fears as their reasoning. If we had more domestic supply, they wouldn't be able to build up supply fears, and geopolitics probably wouldn't have as much of a play in oil prices either.

On the gas front, we killed ourselves with our lack of refinery growth and our absurd regulations requiring different boutique blends of fuel, and now this ethanol ridiculousness. If we want to replace MTBE with ethanol, fine- just end the imported ethanol tariff so we at least have enough supply and can keep the costs down.

9 posted on 04/26/2006 6:40:50 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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So many experts, so little knowledge.


11 posted on 04/26/2006 6:41:38 PM PDT by The Republic is Lost
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You can be darned sure that it is nowhere near $75 a barrel.

Doesn't matter...they could SELL their "cheap" oil for $75 on the open market. Are you saying someone should sell their house for $100,000 when all their neighbors are selling theirs for $400,000 just because they bought their house for $100,000 years ago???

12 posted on 04/26/2006 6:42:16 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Are liberals born stupid, or do they have to work at it???)
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The oil companies get to keep maybe 40% of their profits. They get taxed every way imaginable, and some ways aren't imaginable by everybody.


15 posted on 04/26/2006 6:43:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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"Analysts said a floor remains underneath oil prices, which are 33 percent higher than a year ago, for a variety of reasons:

— With daily global demand roughly 85 million barrels per day, the world's oil producers have less than 2 million barrels per day of spare production capacity, and most of that is for Saudi blends of oil that are less ideal for manufacturing transportation fuels.

— Oil traders are nervous about geopolitical tensions ranging from violence in Nigeria to the West's nuclear standoff with Iran to the move toward greater nationalization of natural resources in energy-rich Venezuela.

— The global economy is expanding, and that means the thirst for oil is only going to grow.

— Speculative investors are piling into energy markets as a way to profit from soaring prices and geopolitical turmoil that could potentially be bad for equities prices."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/business/energy/3817761



16 posted on 04/26/2006 6:43:50 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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Actually their costs are probably closer to $10-12 including extraction and royalties both. That said, what do you propose to do about it? There are willing buyers at $75, so what's the problem? And if they agree to sell it at $30 a barrel, the buyer will just turn around and sell it on the open market for $75, so what is gained? All that accomplishes is to transfer the huge profits from the oil company to a trader/speculator (which is part of what is happening as it is).

And by the way, what's wrong with being successful in your business? It feels like I've stumbled into the DUmpster corner of FR on these gas price threads; gas goes up and all of a sudden we're a bunch of socialists.


17 posted on 04/26/2006 6:43:54 PM PDT by xjcsa (Bill Clinton: A pile of crap between two Bushes)
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wow are you uninformed.

Oil prcies are high because due to enviromental regulations, DEM filibusters, uncertain oil prices since 1980 ,there has been massive underinvestment worldwide in the oil industry. Couple that with India and China demand growth you have very little cushion of excess supply.

Now enter the speculators. In the 1990s excess capacity was about 6m barrels per day. Today it is 1-2m per day. Speculators are then drawn into the market because there is a chance, no matter how remote, that something will disrput supply and that 1-2 m barrel cushion will become a big deficit. Finally the fall of the dollar since 2002 also plays a role.


18 posted on 04/26/2006 6:44:11 PM PDT by georgia2006
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What, you think pump prices are set by a bunch of suits in oil company board rooms?


19 posted on 04/26/2006 6:44:42 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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21 posted on 04/26/2006 6:45:04 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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In addition, should oil companies charge only what it costs to extract the oil? What about exploration? Capital investments? Salaries? Taxes?


24 posted on 04/26/2006 6:45:37 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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Sell your car and buy one of those nice new battery powered cars that gets 45 miles to the charge.

Or convert your existing car to pure alcohol and run it on the same booze you drink.

Or ride a bike everywhere.


But this endless whine of "Big oil is screwing us!" is pathetic when the gasoline industry is subject to as much free market force as any other industry, plus all the government regulation heaped on top of that.


26 posted on 04/26/2006 6:46:45 PM PDT by spinestein (The mainstream news media are to journalism what fast food chains are to fine dining.)
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Okay, I have seen a LOT of threads claiming that oil companies aren't really making that much on each gallon of gasoline.

Oh, really? (blink, blink) Then explain the record profits by the oil companies.

Record number of gallons ?

28 posted on 04/26/2006 6:47:24 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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It's my fault.

I'm sorry.

I'll try to do better.


31 posted on 04/26/2006 6:47:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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"Now, mix in the oil they bought 3 or 4 months ago at $52 a barrel ..."

And in another 3 or 4 months when the price is back to $52 per bbl and they are running the $75 per bbl oil will you be complaining then?

And what does it cost to store a million bbls of oil for 3 or 4 months?
32 posted on 04/26/2006 6:49:26 PM PDT by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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