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HOWLING MOB The four teenaged punks who chased an NYU student into the path of an oncoming car
New York Post ^ | 4-15-05

Posted on 04/15/2006 4:55:52 PM PDT by floridaobserver

The four teenaged punks who chased an NYU student into the path of an oncoming car looked and laughed as he lay on the street dying, a prosecutor revealed yesterday. "They didn't call for an ambulance. They didn't call for help. Rather, they stood on the street corner and laughed," prosecutor Joel Seidemann said of the 13- and 15-year-olds who chased Broderick John Hehman into traffic.

Hehman, 20, died four days later from his massive head injuries.

And the wolf-pack thugs, who allegedly laid in wait for their victim, could have even more to smile about now. Prosecutors lost their bid to try the teens as adults yesterday when their cases were transferred to Manhattan Family Court - where they face about half as much time behind bars if convicted of the top charge against them, felony murder.

Had they been tried as adults, the 15-year-olds would have faced nine years to life behind bars. Now, they face a maximum of five years in "restrictive placement," said Laurence Busching, head of the city Law Department's family court division.

If they're convicted of the lesser charges against them, including manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide, they could get off with as little as 18 months in juvenile detention.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: broderickhehman; hatecrime; innercity; juveniles; population; uncivilized; whitevictim
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To: durasell

Of all the punchlines, in all the threads, in all the forums, I had to step into yours.

Sorry!


61 posted on 04/15/2006 6:01:02 PM PDT by evilC (Call me Krusty)
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To: ardara
If we are having a debate about Hate Crime laws...that is another issue.

I thought, from the original comments on this thread we were discussing the fact that race was not mentioned in the newspaper so it must be black on white crime.

If we are debating Hate Crime legislation my position is this: Fundamentally all violent crime at some level is based in hatred, therefore motive is mostly immaterial, the act is what matters. Hate Crimes law are simply a tool of the left to prove that "crimes against us are worse than crimes against you."

It is all part of the larger us against them race wars that pit one group against another to retain power. Just as I said before, we should not be separated by anything other than behavior. And that holds true both from a moral and a legal point of view. Therefore, we must be careful, when identifying press bias, to not obsessively focus on race, but rather focus on the behavior itself which is appalling.
62 posted on 04/15/2006 6:01:05 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: onyx

"What can be purchased for $2.28?
I don't understand. :) "


I don't think he is referring to the three piece chicken special at Popeye's.


63 posted on 04/15/2006 6:01:28 PM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: Doogle

Where's the Godfather?Might be the only chance for the victim's family to get a little justice.


64 posted on 04/15/2006 6:03:53 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: floridaobserver

They deserve a fair trial and a fast hanging.


65 posted on 04/15/2006 6:04:32 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My nearest neighbor is about a quarter mile down the road and I feel the neighborhood is getting a little crowded.


66 posted on 04/15/2006 6:06:18 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: evilC

It's pretty plain to see that the punchlines of one guy doesn't amount to a hill of beans...


67 posted on 04/15/2006 6:08:09 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: pollyannaish

You miss the point it makes a big differance under N.Y. law that the police and the courts are not treating this case as a bias crime.We have to deal with the laws we have until they change.Iam against labelig crimes bias.


68 posted on 04/15/2006 6:09:01 PM PDT by ardara
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To: floridaobserver

Need Charles Bronson reinacting "Death Wish" against these punks...


69 posted on 04/15/2006 6:12:13 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: Javelina

So when does the ACLU step in to blame the victim for his own death?


70 posted on 04/15/2006 6:12:27 PM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (Oh senseless death and destruction, thy name is Islam!)
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To: Javelina

So when does the ACLU step in to blame the victim for his own death?


71 posted on 04/15/2006 6:12:29 PM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (Oh senseless death and destruction, thy name is Islam!)
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To: ardara

Yes. I agree totally about that.

I was originally responding originally to the first post in the thread which was a complaint about the way the press handles it.

What am I missing?


72 posted on 04/15/2006 6:13:22 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: joonbug

Give it time.

I suspect it won't happen in New York, but if this kind of crime got out of hand in the southeast, the criminals wouldn't exist much longer.


73 posted on 04/15/2006 6:14:06 PM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (Oh senseless death and destruction, thy name is Islam!)
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To: pollyannaish

You should read "Bonfire of the Vanities"


74 posted on 04/15/2006 6:14:38 PM PDT by Quanah
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To: Rome2000

In regards to post# 60:

I'm not trying to argue with you, but is living in NYC really that bad? For instance, I grew up in several Southern cities where the crime rate (per captia) has always beat NYC. Right now, I live in Atlanta, which always beats NYC for crime per captia. Maybe it's just the sheer population difference, but it seems to me that NYC is one of the better cities to live in if you're concerned about violent crime. Admittedly, the furthest north I've ever lived is Washington DC (where I was under the impression is worse city than NY as far as crime is concerned).


75 posted on 04/15/2006 6:15:20 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit

Living in NYC isn't bad. I'm living here now. The thing is -- NYC treats those best who come with a clear idea of what they want. If you want "nothing special," then NYC isn't the place for you.


76 posted on 04/15/2006 6:17:01 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume

The Gang Members are clearly the victims here, victims of centuries of racism and the forcing of their ancesters into slavery.


77 posted on 04/15/2006 6:17:24 PM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: floridaobserver
Yes they are black. That had been rampaging thru the neighborhood. Trashing stores, harrassing passersby, robbing 'outsiders' (new word for white people).

IOW, they were wilding. The animals who were wilding thru Central Park and nearly murdered the jogger got relatively light sentences so these animals are home free.

78 posted on 04/15/2006 6:17:35 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: durasell

From what I've always heard, and the statics to prove it, New York City is the safest big city in America.


79 posted on 04/15/2006 6:22:07 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: OldFriend

"The grand jury wasn't able to indict the pair on high enough charges due to what Seidemann called "a quirk" in the law. That quirk was a provision that allowed them to be indicted for second-degree murder only if they had successfully robbed Hehman before he was killed."

The gang tried to rob Hehman, but because they weren't successful, they get off on an easier charge?

If I rob a liquor store with a gun, but am not successful, then New York City cuts me a break?


80 posted on 04/15/2006 6:23:20 PM PDT by floridaobserver
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