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FOX News Alert: U.S. Marines in Afghanistan Open Operation Mountain Lion
FOX News Cable | April 12, 2006

Posted on 04/12/2006 1:45:28 AM PDT by the_Watchman

The U.S. military has announced that the largest air assualt in 4 years in Afghanistan is underway in Kunar province. It was kicked off 15 hours ago, but a news embargo was imposed. An attempt has been made to keep the Al Queda and Taliban opposition contained so that they will not escape.

Several thousand coalition soldiers are involved. The exit passes are being held since it was believed that too many opposition forces escaped during the previous Operation Anaconda.


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; gnfa; gwot; missinglink; mountainlion; oef; opmountainlion
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To: DevSix

Yeah, what's an OODA?


101 posted on 04/12/2006 6:24:22 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Miss Marple

No cable station is carrying it. It's like it's not happening.


102 posted on 04/12/2006 6:25:21 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Men are by nature more impatient and tend to move on to other tasks (think channel surfing..LOL).

Please forgive me for butting in. You can ignore me if you want and I have little doubt you will but the way I see the whole "channel surfing" deal is its a way for we men to flood our more complex brains with "more input" while using more grey matter and less brawn.

In my opinion you'd think women would be pleased having an intelligent man around the house eh? :-D

103 posted on 04/12/2006 6:32:45 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn.)
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To: jmc1969

"Don't hold your breath though, Bin Laden has gone very deep."\

Bin Laden has been in Iran for three years.


104 posted on 04/12/2006 6:38:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: OKSooner
OODA loop

The secret is to get indside the other guys OODA loop.

Example: The missile strike on Zawahiri in Damadola...we got inside his OODA loop and succeeded in killing 4 or 5 top Al Qaeda leaders.

Example number 2: Capturing Saddam...we got inside his OODA loop.

It all pretty much boils down to you getting inside the other guys decision making process BEFORE he can react.

105 posted on 04/12/2006 6:39:53 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; OKSooner; DevSix
It's basically the process our forces used to capture Saddam. OODA stands for Observe-Orient-Decide-Act. While I like the process very much, I can't stand that acronym/abbreviation. :-)

Wikipedia has a nice rundown, including a process chart.

It has become an important concept in business and military strategy. According to [creator] John Boyd, decision making occurs in a cycle of observe-orient-decide-act. An entity (either an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly can get inside the opponent's decision cycle and gain a military or business advantage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_Loop

106 posted on 04/12/2006 6:40:24 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

News blackout is in force...


107 posted on 04/12/2006 6:40:41 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
It was kicked off 15 hours ago, but a news embargo was imposed.

Interesting that they would impose a news blackout.

I wonder if they have media embeds tagging along.

108 posted on 04/12/2006 6:43:02 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog; Right_in_Virginia; Miss Marple
Here we go. Sounds like a concurrent operation:

Afghans seize four tonnes of drugs, arrest seven

KABUL, April 12 (Reuters) - Afghan anti-narcotics forces have raided a major heroin-producing centre, seizing more than four tonnes of drugs and arresting seven suspects, four of them Pakistanis, the government said on Wednesday.

Afghanistan is the world's main producer of opium and its refined form, heroin, and the huge trade is feeding into an escalating insurgency against foreign troops and the Western-backed government, security officials say.

Newly formed Special Narcotics Forces mounted the raids in the southern province of Helmand, Afghanistan's main opium-growing region, where authorities say militants and the drug gangs are in league.

Eight heroin-refining laboratories were seized and destroyed in the operation on Tuesday in the south of Helmand near the Pakistani border...

109 posted on 04/12/2006 6:45:59 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Dog; Miss Marple

MM said Greg Palcott was embedded with 'em.


110 posted on 04/12/2006 6:48:05 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
We could be seeing the makings of us getting inside their OODA loop with Mountain Lion.

The idea is to get the other guy to react to you....well they will get a reaction from AQ on this one.

Announce the LARGEST air assualt in 4 years...close off the mountain passes into Pakiland and the mothership....announce to the world we are doing it....then impose a blackout....I bet there are some frantic calls in the AQ leadership about now trying to figure out what is going on....and the whole while we are listening in to the intercepts.

111 posted on 04/12/2006 6:49:05 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog

In the one Palcot embed report on FoxNews early this morning, he did say something about one of the helicopters dropping some guys in a bad spot on a rocky cliff or outcropping - he didn't say they were killed, but he implied that something unpleasant happened to them - he also mentioned that local intercepts indicated that hostiles were watching and tracking the movements of the force he was with. That's pretty much all the news given, and you had a sense that he was holding back.


112 posted on 04/12/2006 6:49:47 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: LikeLight

Keep posting the updates to this thread when you hear them..


113 posted on 04/12/2006 6:51:38 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog
I bet there are some frantic calls in the AQ leadership

I hope so, but I doubt it. They learned long ago about open comms.

114 posted on 04/12/2006 6:54:39 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
he also mentioned that local intercepts indicated that hostiles were watching and tracking the movements of the force he was with.

Someone is talking..

115 posted on 04/12/2006 6:56:46 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Dog
I didn't say they weren't. I just don't think it's the high-value targets, and may not even be Al Qaeda. You've also got Taliban and drug traffickers all intertwined in this mess.

Again, I'm more than happy to be wrong.

116 posted on 04/12/2006 6:58:57 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop

Didn't he just announce what city they were in at the end of his report? Was that a known fact already or did he make a mistake and mention their location?


117 posted on 04/12/2006 7:07:19 AM PDT by ReformedTreeHugger
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To: ReformedTreeHugger

No idea.


118 posted on 04/12/2006 7:10:43 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: ReformedTreeHugger

What was the cities name?


119 posted on 04/12/2006 7:12:21 AM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
The U.S. military has announced that the largest air assualt in 4 years in Afghanistan is underway in Kunar province. It was kicked off 15 hours ago, but a news embargo was imposed. An attempt has been made to keep the Al Queda and Taliban opposition contained so that they will not escape.
120 posted on 04/12/2006 7:15:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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