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Scuffle breaks out at immigration rally (Arizona)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 10 April 2006

Posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:01 PM PDT by Spiff

Scuffle breaks out at immigration rally

Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 04.10.2006
advertisementA scuffle that broke out after counter-protestors torched a Mexican flag at Armory Park resulted in four or five people being taken into custody by Tucson police.

Police initially detained a young Hispanic woman in the wake of the flag burning and were escorting the woman to the Police Department’s downtown headquarters as a group of protestors followed.

The confrontation escalated when one man tried to break through a ring of officers surrounding the woman and he and several others were also detained.

About 11 people calling themselves the Border Guardians gathered at Armory park to burn a Mexican flag, a protest similar to one the group had Sunday in front of the Mexican consulate in Tucson.

The Border Guardians were surrounded by police as well as marchers, who locked their arms together with their backs to the counter-protesters and implored the massive crowd to ignore the burning.

An estimated 10,000 marchers had arrived at the Downtown park about noon Monday, where they were met by fewer than a dozen counter-protesters carrying anti-immigrant signs.

Specially trained crowd controllers wearing yellow armbands urged the crowd to remain peaceful, as it has been all morning.

More than 460 rows of marchers, each row at least 25 abreast, filled the streets on the route from a South Side church to Downtown, part of a nationwide protest against proposed legislation that would make it a felony for illegal immigrants to be in the United States.

Meanwhile, Tucson Unified School District reported 8,000 students, or about 13 percent of its student body, were absent Monday. That’s far more absences than usual, school officials said, but they couldn’t immediately say how many are typical on a Monday. TUSD also counted at least 520 classroom teachers out Monday, but says it was able to cover most classes with substitute teachers.

The march began at the corner of South 12th Avenue and Ajo Way, at St. John’s Catholic Church. From there, marchers streamed down 12th to 10th Avenue and on to Armory Park. At the park, speakers took the stage, leading protestors in chants and song.

Jacob Ruiz, 32, A U.S.-born Hispanic who carried a Mexican and American flag sewn together back-to-back so both were displayed, said he was marching to show his support for immigrant rights. “They build America one house at a time, one wall at a time,” said the draftsman. “Their work is permanent and so should their residency."

Debbie McQueen stood across the street from Armory Park holding a sign that said “No to Amnesty.” Someone tossed a couple of water bottles at her and a companion, but neither was hit.

McQueen said, “I’m here as an American citizen, not to protest, but to have my opinion heard as well.”

Among the marchers was Miguel Santos Nunez, 39, from Mexico, who has lived in Tucson five years, working in construction carpentry, while his wife and three children still live in Mexico. His boss gave him the day off to march, he said, and he hopes that the marches "some way or another pressure the legislators."

Many of the signs protested the legislation, HR 4437. Activist groups handed out American flags, white T-shirts and water bottles to the marchers, who hoisted signs with messages including "This is what America looks like,” “We are workers, not criminals” and "We march today, we vote tomorrow."

Some people carried Mexican flags, but those were far outnumbered by the Stars and Stripes on display. Two protesters had sewn an American flag and a Mexican flag together, which they carried as a banner. Mingled in with the crowd were some parents pushing toddlers in strollers.

Liz Macias, 29, who took the day off from her job at a real estate company, marched with her son Carlos Cuestas, 10, a Davis Bilingual Elementary chool student. She said she was marching because she wants her son “to understand what his family has gone through to better themselves.”

Her son said he felt missing a day of school was worthwhile because “what I learned today is that it’s right to fight for your rights — and what you can do about it and how.”

Also in the crowd was Matt Hogel, 30, a middle school teacher at the Arizona Schools for the Deaf and the Blind. The U.S. Navy veteran, who described himself as a Republican, said, “I wanted to show my support and appreciation for the immigant working community here in the country. Whatever they are getting out of our country, we are getting tenfold from them, and people need to understand that.”

At about 10th Street, north of Pueblo High School, a lone counter- protestor who declined to identify himself held up a sign reading “Illegal? No rights.” As the marchers passed Pueblo High School, some students left campus to join them.

Other students were already taking part in the day’s protests. Shortly after 9 a.m., a group of 200 students walked off of the campus of Tucson High School near North Euclid Avenue and East Sixth Street, headed toward Downtown.

Carolina and Daniel Villascuesa accompanied their children, Joe and Antoinette Tafoya, both Tucson High students, to the federal courthouse. “I’ve always been a silent advocate,” said Carolina, but after talking to her children about immigration issues, she and her husband decided that they had to join them in the march. Roughly 1,500 of Tucson High Magnet School’s 2,600 students were absent this morning and 200 more walked off campus.

At Davis Bilingual Elementary Magnet School, 500 W. St. Mary's Road, the entire faculty of 16 was absent. But with only 30 students at the school, substitutes were able to cover.

In neighboring Sunnyside Unified School District, teacher absences were down today, but more than 1,600 students were absent.

And at Amphitheater High School, things went on as normal with no usually high teacher or student absences reported.

Star reporters Brady McCombs, Tom Beal, Daniel Scarpinato and Lourdes Medrano contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; criminals; flagburning; foreigninvasion; illegalalienassaults; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; invaders; linejumpers; mexicanflags; mexico; mmp; reconquista; squatters
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Conflicting reports coming in. I'm going to make a phone call to the flag burner from yesterday (I know him) and get better info.
1 posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:03 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: HiJinx; JustPiper

Ping


2 posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:24 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

Bound to happen eventually.

I'm honestly surprised it took this long....


3 posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:33 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FREE PAUL_DENTON!!!!!)
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To: Spiff

My preference would be to chant back, "You march today, we deport your arse tomorrow..." If only...


4 posted on 04/10/2006 3:12:26 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: Spiff

Thanks for the info.. and good work. I'm thinking this type of thing will become more widespread as the illegals begin to become more impatient..sensing they might not get their way. ..it could explode.

Stop the invaders, close the border. One illegal alien protesting for their 'rights' in the streets of America is annoying, Millions of illegals protesting is an Foreign Invasion.


5 posted on 04/10/2006 3:21:00 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Spiff
I just got off the phone with one of the guys there to burn the Mexican flag.

He said that his group was repeatedly threatened with violence and death by the "peaceful, American-flag waving migrants' rights supporters". Several water bottles were hurled at them with great force. He, somehow, avoided getting hit but others with him were hit HARD. It took 2 rings of police to protect them from the violent thugs who wanted to kill them.

They had 15-20 people in their group. They tread upon and tore a Mexican flag on the ground. They successfully burned that flag as well as a new one brought to the event to be burned.

They recognized several of the thugs as the same ones who disrupted a pro-border security rally in 2004 in downtown Tucson. These guys, with shaved heads and wearing bandannas as masks, came into the rally in 2004 and started pushing people around and intimidating them. They threatened senior citizens and children at the rally. They were recognized by other features such as tatoos. The group got several photos of the thugs who were making threats to kill them.

Police had to escort the flag burners, using a motorcycle escort, to the parking lot and guard them until they left the area.

One of the organizers of this protest had this to say, "They can try to hide behind their newly purchased American flags, but these are the same marchers that were there 2 weeks with the same message and the same hate for America and Americans."

6 posted on 04/10/2006 3:24:14 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

Cinco De Mayo is national Mexican flag burning day.


7 posted on 04/10/2006 3:31:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Spiff

Jacob Ruiz, 32, A U.S.-born Hispanic who carried a Mexican and American flag sewn together back-to-back so both were displayed, said he was marching to show his support for immigrant rights. “They build America one house at a time, one wall at a time,” said the draftsman. “Their work is permanent and so should their residency."

Only doing the jobs Americans don't want?
Last time I checked, Americans working in the construction industry were desperate for jobs.

Perhaps these wetbacks and their $5 wages have undercut the indigenous job market?


8 posted on 04/10/2006 3:32:16 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Spiff
His boss gave him the day off to march, he said, and he hopes that the marches "some way or another pressure the legislators."

Who's your boss again?....

9 posted on 04/10/2006 3:33:34 PM PDT by joesnuffy (This 'Guest Worker Program' Is To Border Security as 'Campaign Finance Reform' Is To Free Speech)
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To: SJSAMPLE

And before anyone beats you up for employing the pejorative term "wetback", I wish to remind them that the term "wetback" refers specifically to ILLEGAL ALIENS. Its origins lie in the many aliens who crossed the Rio Grande when breaking and entering the United States and would literally come out of the river dripping wet. The most successful Border Patrol operation in the history of the United States occurred in 1954 and it was called "Operation Wetback". That operation, by the way, deported or scared away over 1 million illegal aliens - a HUGE number for the few that were in the country back then. The term does not apply to hispanics/latinos/chicanos in general, as some would pretend, unless they are here illegally. It is not a racist term. Neither hispanic, latino, nor chicano are races anyway. So, you're going to get slammed, or your post may get pulled, but that's the fact of the matter about the term "wetback".


10 posted on 04/10/2006 3:35:57 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: SJSAMPLE

"Perhaps these wetbacks and their $5 wages have undercut the indigenous job market?"

They are getting $20+/hr but are being paid in cash/no deductions.

The low lifes that stand on the corner looking for work won't work for less than $10/hr plus transportation and lunch.


11 posted on 04/10/2006 3:40:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Spiff
The march began at the corner of South 12th Avenue and Ajo Way, at St. John’s Catholic Church.

The Dallas march started at the catholic church as well. The catholic church is heavily involved in this matter.

12 posted on 04/10/2006 3:44:59 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Spiff

One of several assaults on US citizens by those protesting on the behalf of felons.


13 posted on 04/10/2006 3:45:48 PM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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To: glorgau
Cinco De Mayo is national Mexican flag burning day.

LOL.....now THAT'S a great idea~!!!!

14 posted on 04/10/2006 3:47:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: Spiff
It took 2 rings of police to protect them from the violent thugs who wanted to kill them.

I'm going to let all of you in on a little secret: If someone burns a Mexican flag in the presence of Mexicans, someone is eventually going to get killed. They simply do NOT tolerate such behavior. Now, why aren't we as protective of our flag/sovreignty as they are?

15 posted on 04/10/2006 3:47:18 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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"deported or scared away over 1 million illegal aliens"

Why don't you say how many were actually deported?

16 posted on 04/10/2006 3:47:18 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: goodnesswins
Cinco De Mayo is national Mexican flag burning day.

I wholeheartedly agree. However, make sure you're wearing body armor and have backup ready.

17 posted on 04/10/2006 3:48:03 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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"They threatened senior citizens and children at the rally."

That puts my blood pressure at critical..


18 posted on 04/10/2006 3:48:52 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Spiff; All

Added the keyword, "ILLEGALALIENASSAULTS."

Any more like this, please do the same. Thanks.


19 posted on 04/10/2006 3:50:09 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"The Dallas march started at the catholic church as well."

And the one in Seattle.


20 posted on 04/10/2006 3:50:12 PM PDT by beelzepug (Kites banned in Pakistan...does anything in Islam NOT involve throat slitting?)
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