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Stunning facts about the proposed immigration bill
NRO ^ | 4-6-06 | Mark Levin

Posted on 04/08/2006 9:32:07 PM PDT by JustPiper

SENATOR SESSIONS ON SECURING AMERICA'S BORDERS ACT

Mr. President, I thank Senator Leahy, ranking member on the Judiciary Committee.

I have received just this afternoon in my office some disturbing news in the form of correspondence from the Congressional Budget Office. It suggests a number of areas where the amendment we are talking about here today, No. 3424, the immigration so-called compromise, violates our budget and the rules of the Senate.

Let me read from the correspondence we have received. This is something, as you know, Mr. President, as a member of the Judiciary Committee, that we never discussed at all. It is not a matter we spent any time at all discussing as we moved forward with legislation which ultimately cleared that committee and came to the floor — legislation which I thought was not good legislation and which I opposed, and so did the Senator from Texas, who just relinquished the Chair. We didn't discuss the financial impact of the legislation before us.

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To: JustPiper
Good job. All of you contractors out there who are tired of getting aced out of jobs better start turning in the illegals playing contractor or contractors hiring illegals. I know this sounds NAZI like but what choice are we being given. All of the cheap skates are hiring cheap illegal labor and the county, state and feds just look the other way. As I was told by a county official...nothing gets done unless allot of people complain about something. So blitz the county for non permited projects done by illegals, blitz the state for illegals working without a license and blitz the feds ICE for suspected illegals working period.
1,801 posted on 04/26/2006 2:46:31 PM PDT by jetson (throne)
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Hangin' Themselves

A Repeat Worth REPeating!

Mexico's Immigration Laws

Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

In the country legally; have the means to sustain themselves economically; not destined to be burdens on society; of economic and social benefit to society; of good character and have no criminal records; and contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that:

Immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor; foreign visitors do not violate their visa status; foreign visitors are BANNED from interfering in the country's internal POLITICS AND VOTING; foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported; foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported; those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens - and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, legal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

It is an interesting law - and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent?

If the United States adopted the law, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society: Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country: Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants

(Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned: Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned: Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121).

Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico - such as WORKING with out a permit - can also be imprisoned. If a foreigner goes into business they must have a Mexican Corporation and hire at least 5 Mexican employees to 1 American employee.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says, "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law: A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

IDEA: Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

I suppose if it is so bad here moving to Mexico is an option.

1,802 posted on 04/26/2006 2:52:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: JustPiper; shield; All
Remember the 1,000+ illegals arrested in Houston? Guess what happened to them? post # 54 shield

What a fiasco.

1,803 posted on 04/26/2006 2:54:13 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: JustPiper
I missed it on FNC. Went to liddy's site... couldn't figure out where to go.

If lou dobbs comes on & you notice me flitting around... send me to the TV set, please!! (gotta get a TV by computer!)

1,804 posted on 04/26/2006 2:56:44 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Serenissima Venezia

LOL!!!!!!!


1,805 posted on 04/26/2006 2:57:27 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Serenissima Venezia
Well Start with these idiots


1,806 posted on 04/26/2006 3:04:56 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: exhaustedmomma
LINK TO ARTICLE

Employers worried about losing workers, not about fines?

10:25 PM CDT on Thursday, April 20, 2006
By Vicente Arenas / 11 News

Only 11 News was there when the majority of people arrested in an illegal immigrant crackdown were released just hours later Wednesday.

We asked federal officials why they were set free and the answer exposed serious problems inside the federal detention center.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency now confirms and explains why it had to quickly release 53 of 67 workers detained by agents in two Houston raids Wednesday.

Labor attorney Jacob Monty says employers concerned about losing workers, not about being fined.

"Lacked bed space and they didn't meet the criteria of mandatory detention under immigration law," said Scott Hatfield, Acting Special Agent in Charge.

ICE also confirmed an 11 News report that its detention center's computers crashed, not only in Houston, but across the country as agents tried to process more than 1100 workers in the nationwide crackdown.

Agents had to scribble in court dates, which ICE says many immigrants ignore.

"That happens frequently, when people just don't show up to immigration court," said Hatfield.

ICE is still calling the raids a success, a big win for an agency with a new focus.

"To educate and to let employers know that we are serious about conducting investigations of employers who hire undocumented workers in the United States," Hatfield said.

It's a goal that has many Houston businesses concerned.

I'm not hearing a lot of concern from employers that they are going to be charged with violating immigration laws. What I am hearing is what are they going to do if they haul off my workforce?" said labor attorney Jacob Monty.

Put simply, owners don't want this to happen to them.

He's not going to get fined because he was fooled into firing them, but he's going to lose those workers in the course of a raid.

And those business may have reason to worry, as ICE says it will be going after more businesses.

CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO

1,807 posted on 04/26/2006 3:04:57 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: jetson

We're waiting for O'Hare here in hopes there will be contracting union jobs


1,808 posted on 04/26/2006 3:05:54 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Of corse most that ICE arrested were Catch and Release in 3-4 hours


1,809 posted on 04/26/2006 3:06:39 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Ack its almost 10 after


1,810 posted on 04/26/2006 3:07:10 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: shield; jetson

Thanks for posting about this issue


1,811 posted on 04/26/2006 3:08:22 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: JustPiper
Of corse most that ICE arrested were Catch and Release in 3-4 hours

Ridiculous! Why even bother? Could just save taxpayer monies by firing all the ICE agents - they're not allowed to do anything anyway!
1,812 posted on 04/26/2006 3:12:20 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: exhaustedmomma
Here's the other article on the illegals picked up...this doesn't say they were let go. The report on KHOU TV said they were. Here's the link to the article.

HPD, ICE find more illegal immigrants in southeast Houston

10:04 PM CDT on Tuesday, April 25, 2006
From 11 News Staff Reports

Houston police called ICE Tuesday at about 4 p.m. after they discovered at least 19 illegal immigrants in a resale shop.

They were found at Sonia's Resale Shop, located in the 3000 block of Telephone Rd. in southeast Houston

1,813 posted on 04/26/2006 3:13:18 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: JustPiper

It's coming on next. Hillary came on... blaaaah. Then Weldon and somebody else on gas.... blaaaah. I may not make it til the good stuff. Supreme court... this is going to the SC???


1,814 posted on 04/26/2006 3:22:45 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: shield; Serenissima Venezia; JustPiper
Thank you so much shield!!

It is ridiculous.

1,815 posted on 04/26/2006 3:25:17 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: shield; HiJinx; All
ICE also confirmed an 11 News report that its detention center's computers crashed, not only in Houston, but across the country as agents tried to process more than 1100 workers in the nationwide crackdown.

Oh for crying out loud. Keystone cops. Big success my big toe.

1,816 posted on 04/26/2006 3:28:20 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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We have a chance here and I just do not want to miss it. These chances don’t come around very often. This is the time to do something that will affect the lives of millions of people. ~ La Raza

FRONT PAGE: Senator’s word

Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) recommends that the dynamic of applying pressure via massive demonstrations should not be stopped because the reform to the immigration system is at risk of getting stuck in the senate, but he opposes the boycott.

In an exclusive interview during a visit to the offices of La Raza, Senator Durbin – a member of the Judiciary Committee – predicted that the issue will not die, but at the same time he warned of new risks of losing the political momentum for approval of a measure with the potential of legalizing some 12 million undocumented people.

The two main Republican leaders in Congress, Senator Bill Frist and Representative Dennis Hastert, assured that they expect to advance a bill which does not criminalize the undocumented. In a joint statement, they said “It continues to be our intention to produce a strong border security bill which will not make illegal presence in the United States a serious crime.”

Jorge Mederos
La Raza

1,817 posted on 04/26/2006 3:32:06 PM PDT by JustPiper (In our time, no foreign army has ever occupied American soil. Until now.)
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To: exhaustedmomma
Oh for crying out loud. Keystone cops. Big success my big toe.

That's BIG GOVERNMENT for you...full of mostly incompetence....

1,818 posted on 04/26/2006 3:47:38 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: All

ARM YOURSELF WITH THE FACTS---THEN CALL CONGRESS


October 2005 Comments to US House Judiciary Committee on Immigration: foreign gov'ts carve US into voting districts

By Stanley A Renshon----Center for Immigration Studies---opposes illegal immigration

EXCERPT In Vicente Fox's 2000 presidential campaign, his National Action Party and Cardenas's Party of the Democratic Revolution organized caravans to take Mexican immigrants to polling places in Mexico from cities as far-flung as New York and Yakima, Wash. 19 With the new absentee voting law, this will no longer be necessary and energy and attention can be better paid to getting out the Mexican vote -- in the United States.

Because the election process also involves extensive campaigning, this too is a means of reinforcing and cementing immigrant ties to "home" countries. The Washington Post wrote, "Eager to reach their countrymen living in the United States, Mexico's two main opposition presidential candidates are barnstorming through Southern California as if it were Mexico's 32nd state."13

It is increasingly the case that the candidates of other countries actively campaign in the United States for financial and other kinds of support.

When Vicente Fox campaigned for the Mexican presidency, he campaigned in Mexican communities in the United States.14 In 2000, Francisco Labastida, presidential candidate of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), appeared on the Washington Post's Live Online, an Internet Q&A, to campaign among his countrymen in the United States.15

This process has even spread to the state and local level for Mexican politicians.16 In 1998, candidates Ricardo Monreal and Jose Olvera -- rivals for the governorship in the central Mexican state of Zacatecas -- campaigned in California, where thousands of people originally from that state live and work.17

That same year, Mexico City Mayor Cuauhtemoc Cardenas Solorzano was in Chicago to inaugurate the first U.S. branch of Mexico's Party of the Democratic Revolution.18

A coalition -- "Mexicans Living Abroad" --brought together Mexicans living in California, Texas, Iowa, and Illinois to press the Mexican government for the right to vote in Mexican elections.

There are a number of examples. Jesus Galvis, a Columbian travel agent and elected official in Hackensack, N.J., ran a campaign in 1998 for a seat in the Columbian senate.53 He planned to hold both offices. Mr. Galvis was asked in an interview whether he could represent his Hackensack constituents while splitting time in Colombia, and said he would have been like a U.S. Congressman with an office in his district and one in Washington.

In each place, he said, "I would be representing the Colombians in the United States."54

Mr. Galvis' non-Columbian constituents in Hackensack would no doubt be surprised and not pleased to learn that if they weren't Columbian they would not be represented. Others were critical of Mr. Galvis' position. Saramaria Archila, head of a Latin American social services agency in Queens, New York, who had lobbied for the dual citizenship law in Colombia, nevertheless said Galvis crossed the line. "If I am an elected official in a country, it is impossible to defend the interests of my community in another country," she said.55

Yet another development along these lines is the carving up of American territory as districts for representation of foreign governments by American citizens. As one report noted, "In what experts call an extraordinary step... three Mexicans living in the United States are running for seats in Mexico's Congress. If they win -- and chances are good for at least two of them, in Chicago and Los Angeles -- they will live in the United States and represent Mexicans here."56




ABOVE COMMENTS ARE A LONG READ---pages of footnotes. Access URL for complete comments to US House Judiciary Committee on immigration (PDF).

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:9EQn-JnfrAkJ:judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/renshon093005.pdf





News reports quote Professor Charles Truxillo of the University of New Mexico: he says that there will be a new, sovereign Hispanic nation formed within the United States and northern Mexico in the not-too-distant future. The good professor says that this new nation, called "Republica del Norte" will take in all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado, as well as several northern Mexican states. How will this all happen? Truxillo says it will come as a result of electoral pressure of the "future majority Hispanic population in the region." Mexican magazines are publishing articles praising the exploits of the "reconquistadors" while telling American citizens "with all due respect, Los Angeles is ours."




According to an AP article by Mark Stevenson (4/23/06) "Mexico's economy, society and political system are built around the assumption that migration and
amnesties for undocumented migrants will continue -- and that the $20 billion they send home every year will keep coming, and almost certainly grow."

Stevenson also reports that Mexicans -- the ones actually living in Mexico -- are giving their babies American names like Johnny and Leslie so that they will fit in better once they've moved to the United States. Vicente Fox, Mexico's president, considers the illegal aliens to be "heroes." Why? Because they send those tens of millions of dollars back to their families, thus, at least to some extent, relieving Fox of the necessity of tackling corruption in the Mexican government and reforming the Mexican economy so that these people can earn that money there instead of invading the United States to get work.


1,819 posted on 04/26/2006 3:52:27 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: shield
I have a "friend" that I used to work with in California (I am now in Texas) who is a real DU type who is always sending out hate Bush emails. Well over the last month they are now anti illegal immigrant emails. I wrote him and told him this is one area we can agree and would he join me in contacting our respective US Senators and voicing displeasure with the McCain/Kennedy bill, well that was big "its all the repugs fault, all they want to do is give amnesty to all the illegals and open the border." He just can't see that the democrats are just as guilty if not more so...I give up.
1,820 posted on 04/26/2006 3:54:10 PM PDT by engrpat
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