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The top two Outdoors/Nature books on Amazon.com currently are Flannery's book and "Field Notes from a Catastrophe", also about climate.
1 posted on 04/07/2006 11:52:39 AM PDT by cogitator
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Yes, it's certainly the things that we don't know that are most worrying. Just consider two facts: The global climate system is full of positive feedback loops that amplify small initial changes, and we don't fully understand the system yet. That implies that our computer projections are underestimates. And indeed, that's what we're seeing in the real world. Shifts, such as increases in hurricane intensity, are progressing decades ahead of the projections.

Positive feedback loops? No negative ones? Also it sounds like he doesn't know the first thing about the models, or care. Pure fearmongering attached to a few bits of biased science.

2 posted on 04/07/2006 11:58:11 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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"The time for debate and discussion has long since passed, he writes in his new book,.."

LOL!

In other words: "The time for debate and discussion has long since passed." he said, right before debating and discussing it.


3 posted on 04/07/2006 12:00:36 PM PDT by Pessimist
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This guy's entire way of talking allows him to say untruths in a way that avoids outright lying. Take this:

The world's coral reefs are already substantially damaged, and, of course, we've already seen extinctions as a result of climate change.

Coral reef damage. Related to Global Warming? Caused by man? He doesn't say. He just points out that coral reefs "are already substantially damaged". Yeah, well, Abraham Lincoln is "already dead". What's it to you?

And, those extinctions which have occurred? An example? Is he thinking of the Wooly Mammoth? That Ice Age which ended about 10,000 years ago did kill off a number of species. What's that matter now?

His entire interview can be picked apart. He's just selling books by making people panic.

4 posted on 04/07/2006 12:11:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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“If . . . we wait to see if an ailment is indeed fatal, we will do nothing until we are dead.”

Typical scare tactic.

You have an infection on your hand. It might be gangrene. Amputate immediately! Don't wait to find out what's really causing the problem.

9 posted on 04/07/2006 12:20:19 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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For a long time, the argument seemed to be that global warming either wasn't real or [has been] that it wasn't being caused by man.
Has the world seen enough evidence now to move beyond that?

The argument you outline has been dictated by a small group of skeptics, many of whom are paid by those who make money from polluting and who don't wish to see changes to the way they do business. They've gone through at least three stages of denial: first that climate change doesn't exist; then that it does exist but it's not human caused; then that we are causing it, but it's too expensive to fix.

'Warming' exists, and it's a normal part of earths cycle, and it is extremely doubtful that we could 'fix it', even if we knew how.

The author is an idiot.

17 posted on 04/07/2006 1:07:00 PM PDT by tpaine
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I like witch-doctors better than many of these "modern scientists".

At least the witch-doctors presented their fantasies verbally and briefly and did not waste precious lumber products disseminating their nonsense.
18 posted on 04/07/2006 1:11:16 PM PDT by cgbg (When you hear the words "gender" or "stakeholder" run for your life!)
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No sweat, don't worry. Hillary wll f**k us fore GW does.


19 posted on 04/07/2006 1:48:38 PM PDT by Waco
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Seems Mars is also undergoing global warming and man hasn't been there yet, so what is Gore's answer to that? Is he going to turn off the sun or what?


20 posted on 04/07/2006 1:49:55 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Yes, it's certainly the things that we don't know that are most worrying.

ROFLOL!

This is, I believe, the very rallying cry of the fear-monger, out in the open for all to see!

There's a term for this in the computer industry, because corporations such as Intel and IBM have used it so successfully in their marketing over the years.

It's called FUD. That's an acronym which stands for Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.

One famous use of FUD was IBM's marketing campaign: "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM." I'm sure you can think of dozens of variations on the theme.

Global WarmingTM true believers have made this style of disinformation the very centerpiece of their strategy. "We have everything to fear, especially fear itself!"

When someone comes to me, claiming to bring legitimate science, and says, "...it's certainly the things that we don't know that are most worrying." then his credibility is truly laughable. This issue is a fear campaign of large proportion, nothing more, nothing less. It is most revealing that the urgently promoted solution is so plainly in keeping with core left-wing political goals of demonizing industry and increasing governmental control.

Every day, it seems, there are more reports underscoring how little scientists understand about the complexities of the global weather system. To demand that a particular action must be taken to avert unknown damage from very uncertain causes is, indeed, the definition of foolishness.

22 posted on 04/07/2006 2:08:23 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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we are the weather makers

Mankind, get over yourself.

92 posted on 04/19/2006 11:24:14 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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