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To: cogitator
This guy's entire way of talking allows him to say untruths in a way that avoids outright lying. Take this:

The world's coral reefs are already substantially damaged, and, of course, we've already seen extinctions as a result of climate change.

Coral reef damage. Related to Global Warming? Caused by man? He doesn't say. He just points out that coral reefs "are already substantially damaged". Yeah, well, Abraham Lincoln is "already dead". What's it to you?

And, those extinctions which have occurred? An example? Is he thinking of the Wooly Mammoth? That Ice Age which ended about 10,000 years ago did kill off a number of species. What's that matter now?

His entire interview can be picked apart. He's just selling books by making people panic.

4 posted on 04/07/2006 12:11:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Coral reef damage.

There's no doubt coral reefs are damaged. Most indicators point to increasing water temperature as something that will only make things worse.

And, those extinctions which have occurred? An example?

I imagine he has examples in mind; they may be in the book. I'm traveling next week and I hope to peruse the book in the airport to decide if I want to buy it. I'll see what it says about extinctions.

7 posted on 04/07/2006 12:17:44 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: ClearCase_guy
We were on the Australian Barrier Reef in late 2000. The coral was no different than it had been in 1975. We were in Maui last November. Different sort of coral, but it was no different than it had been in the early 1990s, when we were last there.

I have experienced years in the 1980s-1990s when the ecoloons were bleating on about coral bleaching, went to the Caribbean to several different diving locations, and saw mostly healthy coral. Some corals lose their symbiotes in any given area in any given year and often, within a year, they are repopulated and healthy. In fact, I have dived areas that were hit by massive storms/hurricanes and had regenerated in a really short period of time. The deeper areas are usually not bothered much.

Maybe they mean extinctions like the Ivory Billed Woodpecker, recently found in LA. And what about all the previously undiscovered species we keep finding?

I agree about this person's manner of speaking. His presentation is coercive. He doesn't care if he's lying or not, as long as he can manipulate the listener to agree with him, be frightened and take the action he prefers.
28 posted on 04/07/2006 3:53:01 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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