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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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To: bill1952
Name the judge that either appointed that was as bad as ginsburg is.

Sure...

961 posted on 04/06/2006 12:30:53 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: clawrence3

bttt


962 posted on 04/06/2006 12:31:08 PM PDT by Txsleuth (~~~~~~FREEPATHON TIME~~~~~~)
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To: bill1952

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1609406/posts


963 posted on 04/06/2006 12:31:44 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I didn't "dismiss' anything - I asked 2 simple questions - Carter's amnesty to draft dodgers WAS "blanket" and all you had to do for the desertion amnesty was fill out some paperwork. Of course there were differences - that's what makes it an "analogy" rather than "exactly the same" (I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore because I don't "get it"?).


964 posted on 04/06/2006 12:32:52 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Spiff

Kyl is one of the better Senators on this GWBush shamnesty. Yet Kyl's proposals are still far from what we need. We need a fence that future DC hacks cannot tamper with like they've downgraded all enforcement efforts. Interior and on the border.

This country has huge problems when apprehended OTMs (other than Mexicans) are being released into interior America to do what they please.


965 posted on 04/06/2006 12:33:18 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: kenboy
Yep. Which is why this is all a giant waste of time.

Not if you cut off social services to non-citizens so they will self-deport. We won't be able to do that once the illegals are citizens and unemployable.

Right now some business have to employ illegals to be able to compete with rival businesses that also employ illegals. If we tell businesses that those days are over and anyone emloying an illegal will face jail time then it will all stop. Most businesses won't suffer as the competitors will be under the same rules.

966 posted on 04/06/2006 12:33:37 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Timeout
Shouldn't that be just the REPUBLICANS in the Senate WHO VOTED FOR the compromise bill? There were plenty of stalwart GOP Senators railing against the bill.
967 posted on 04/06/2006 12:34:37 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Faithfull

"They have to get caught 3 times to be expelled."


ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

Another toothless law.


968 posted on 04/06/2006 12:34:41 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: JustPiper
"Our plan is tough and fair, and I'm encouraged that the President now supports it," said Kennedy in a statement.

"The American people have made their voices heard in their churches, in their schools and in the streets and the Senate has listened," he added, referring to the large rallies in recent weeks by protesters calling for rights for immigrants.

Well, there it is. They are the Americans. We are not.

969 posted on 04/06/2006 12:35:27 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Peach
People here for less than 2 years have to leave. That's a good first step.

In other words, nothing will happen to you. You will just stay working and hiding as an illegal alien because Immigration won't do anything to find you and deport you. No different that today.

970 posted on 04/06/2006 12:35:44 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: STARWISE
those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

I assume they mean the line they decided they didn't want to stand in the first time they crossed the border illegally? Why would they go back and why would they worry about any consequences if they didn't? We don't enforce our immigration laws and the border is, and still will be, wide open for them to continue to pour across. Our crummy politicians will enforce the parts of this bill that are beneficial to the illegals but not the parts that require they be picked up, sent back, and prevented from walking back across. I've had it with the RINO's.

971 posted on 04/06/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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To: Txsleuth

What does "bttt" stand for?


972 posted on 04/06/2006 12:36:00 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: kenboy
keep seeing the 12 million illegals number everywhere, but what I'm having a harder time determining is the number that are employed.

According to Bear Stern a year ago, there were 20 million illegals in the country. According to the Pew Hispanic Inst. half the illegals in the country are employed.

973 posted on 04/06/2006 12:36:21 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: clawrence3
The two should not be grouped under the same rubric.

President Carter was not inviting members of the Armed Forces at that time to desert their posts, or giving a retroactive stamp of approval to illegal behavior.

What President Bush is doing right now has no precedent.

Even comparing it to to President Reagan's disastrous amnesty proposal isn't fair, because the lawmakers enacting this sham make no pretension of actually enforcing the provisions of this proposed law.

974 posted on 04/06/2006 12:36:31 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: clawrence3
O.K., how about "amnesty with added paperwork" then?

Amnesty that leads to citizenship is a disaster in any form. Once the illegals become citizens, they will be unemployable and businesses will have to import new illegals to work cheap and benefit free.

The new citizens will be completely unemployable as citizens and will have to resort to welfare - welfare that we won't be able to turn off since they will now be legal citizens.

975 posted on 04/06/2006 12:36:52 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: All
 

Amnesty: n. a decision by a government to forgive people who have committed particular illegal acts or crimes.
        --Cambridge Dictionary of American English

Stop Amnesty - US

History of U.S. Amnesties

 

Until 1986, the United States had never forgiven the act of illegal immigration in other than individual cases and had never rewarded large numbers of illegal aliens with the opportunity for U.S. citizenship.

Congress has passed 7 amnesties for illegal aliens, starting in 1986.

  1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA) Amnesty, 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens.
  2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens.
  3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994.
  4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America.
  5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.
  6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens.
  7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens.
  8. Nine current bills are vying to be Amnesty No. 8.

See more information at www.NumbersUSA.com.

976 posted on 04/06/2006 12:37:46 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: Timeout
The problem with your reasoning is that this will be taken as solely REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION by all who don't follow politics closely. The Dem's will reap dividends from whatever hatred exists for Congress and this despicable amnesty.
977 posted on 04/06/2006 12:38:24 PM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: clawrence3

Don't compare grapes with pineapples. An illigal invasion of this nature is much more serious that a speeding violation. This invasion caries with it the liklihood of causing irreversible damage to this country

I've seen your posts, and it appears to me that nothing would please you more that a complete abolition of our borders and our immigration laws.

Go peddle this crap elsewhere.


978 posted on 04/06/2006 12:39:04 PM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: JeffAtlanta

With all due respect, although I don't like either him or Souter, they are not even in the same league as the former ACLU lawyer bitch.


979 posted on 04/06/2006 12:39:07 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Well, of course not - Carter was in the Naval Academy and not President at the time of said infractions - I believe Johnson presided over most of those. Why pass "amnesty" if you aren't going to grant those provision under the law.


980 posted on 04/06/2006 12:39:11 PM PDT by clawrence3
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