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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; borderlist; buchananwasright; compromise; congress; guestworker; idiotsonparade; immigration; senatetraitors; soldout; tancredo4president; theswimmer; traitors; trashingamerica; treason
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To: JeffAtlanta
True, but unfortunately both the Senate and President oppose it.

The Senate does so at its own peril. We just have to keep the pressure up. The numbers in the general public are on our side. We can't let up.

1,361 posted on 04/06/2006 2:52:42 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: JeffAtlanta

I agree Bush did the best with Hispanic men (why do you think George P. is being groomed) and in the South. There are some conflicting exit poll data, but TV network-Associated Press national exit poll taken on Election Day gave Bush 44 percent of their votes, compared to 35 percent overall in 2000 - that's nothing to sneeze at: http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_hispanic-data-12_21_pr.pdf


1,362 posted on 04/06/2006 2:52:46 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: BigSkyFreeper
This notion of a impenatrable wall, real or imagined, is just a pipe dream.

Nice strawman. Even the Berlin Wall had escapes. We don't need to go that far.

If we make crossing the wall a 75 percent probability of getting caught, and seeking employment as an illegal a 50-50 chance of getting caught, then you have an 87.5 percent chance of getting caught. Since most border crossers have to pay a lot of money to coyotes, it makes it a poor investment - whereas now, the odds are, they won't get caught.

So we don't need to rise to your standard of an inpenetrable wall. Just one to signfiicantly slow the flow, when used in conjunction with additional enforcement within the country.

1,363 posted on 04/06/2006 2:53:28 PM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I'm sure after yesterday's RPG attack on Israel, he got the last laugh.

A wall doesn't have to 100% effective to have value. I doubt the person in Isreal climbed the wall anyway.

By your logic, if we lose one person in Afganistan then the mission was a failure.

1,364 posted on 04/06/2006 2:53:35 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

That's right - I've never even READ an exit poll before ; )


1,365 posted on 04/06/2006 2:53:53 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: mthom

Sure I will - he is pro-choice.


1,366 posted on 04/06/2006 2:54:21 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: dirtboy
Even the Berlin Wall had escapes. We don't need to go that far.

My point exactly. Strangely somehow you disagree.

1,368 posted on 04/06/2006 2:54:31 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
About 7.2 million unauthorized migrants were employed in March 2005, accounting for about 4.9% of the civilian labor force. They made up a large share of all workers in a few more detailed occupational categories, including 24% of all workers employed in farming occupations, 17% in cleaning, 14% in construction and 12% in food preparation.

You mean to tell me you're ready to go to war against illegals because they occupy FIVE PERCENT of the work force? I had no idea it was so low.

There is weeping and gnashing of teeth when 86% of the construction industry employs non-illegals?

Thanks for that statistic. It's going to come in handy.

Tell me. What is the job breakdown in "farming occupations"? How many American citizens are picking grapes and oranges, versus illegals?

1,369 posted on 04/06/2006 2:54:50 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I'm sure after yesterday's RPG attack on Israel, he got the last laugh.

That had nothing to do with the wall. Indeed, the wall will be stopping that in the future.
1,370 posted on 04/06/2006 2:55:14 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: sinkspur
"White boy" is a racial slur? LOL!!

Yep... LOL!! backatcha!! Are you a, "black boy"?

1,371 posted on 04/06/2006 2:55:14 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: clawrence3
I agree Bush did the best with Hispanic men (why do you think George P. is being groomed) and in the South.

All concentrated in states that were already solidly GOP. Take out the Texas hispanic vote and he he didn't do well at all with hispanics.

1,372 posted on 04/06/2006 2:55:15 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
By your logic, if we lose one person in Afganistan then the mission was a failure.

Not exactly. But one unarmed citizen lost is one too many.

1,373 posted on 04/06/2006 2:55:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: clawrence3
Neither have I.

Although I considered working for VNS a few years ago, before they disbanded.

1,374 posted on 04/06/2006 2:56:34 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
There has been ample documentation and tons of links-on this thread, as on other related threads-and it hasn't done anything to persuade the FROBLs here that they might just be wrong.

Wouldn't want the FACTS to get in the way of their FEELINGS now, would we, brohamie? ;o)

1,375 posted on 04/06/2006 2:56:54 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
My point exactly. Strangely somehow you disagree.

It's not clear why you insist that a wall must be 100% effective to be of value.

The Secret Service hasn't been 100% effective in protecting the President (Kennedy) - does that mean that the Secret Service protection is useless and should be disbanded?

1,377 posted on 04/06/2006 2:57:47 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta; MaineVoter2002

Are either of you accusing the President of the United States of "treason"?


1,378 posted on 04/06/2006 2:58:05 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: GarySpFc
That had nothing to do with the wall.

It had everything to do with the wall.

the wall will be stopping that in the future.

That wall will be useless if the attacks are carried out from within.

1,379 posted on 04/06/2006 2:58:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Who is going to pick the lettuce once the 12 million illegals are made citizens and refuse to work for slave wages any longer?

Since the first of the 12 million wouldn't be eligible for citizenship for eleven years, we've got plenty of time to work that out.

1,380 posted on 04/06/2006 2:58:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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