Posted on 03/31/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Princeton University sociologist Douglas S. Massey reports that 62 percent of illegal immigrants pay income taxes (via withholding) and 66 percent contribute to Social Security. Forbes magazine notes that Mexican illegals aren't clogging up the social-services system: only 5 percent receive food stamps or unemployment assistance; 10 percent send kids to public schools.
Economist Larry Kudlow praises Hispanic entrepreneurship: "According to 2002 Census Bureau data, Hispanics are opening businesses at a rate three times faster than the national average. In addition, there were almost 1.6 million Hispanic-owned businesses generating $222 billion in revenue in 2002."
Total crime and property crime in California are half what they were in 1980; violent crime has fallen more than a third. The state's Hispanic population during that time has increased 120 percent.
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Ah, the cosseted techies. Can't have any competition from the best and the brightest for them. What we need are more strawberry field workers. That is what is best for America.
"The United States of America is much greater than any example that you may bring."
For the moment. If amnesty goes through, we will be the new France.
"There's a form that the Feds require to be completed for every employee that establishes legal right to work."
Incorrect on 'every employee'. Small business owners are exempt from this for temporary labor.
I am prepared to proceed slowly with this. The constitution of the State of Texas states: "The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions, from all unreasonable seizures or searches, and no warrant to search any place, or to seize any person or thing, shall issue without describing them as near as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation." Of important note is the second word. It does not specify "citizen".
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000100-000900.html
We even go a little further: No person shall ever be imprisoned for debt.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000100-001800.html
This is the real kicker: All free men, when they form a social compact, have equal rights, and no man, or set of men, is entitled to exclusive separate public emoluments, or privileges, but in consideration of public services.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000100-000300.html
And of course the starter: Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self-government, unimpaired to all the States.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000100-000100.html
It is obvious that there are no provisions for state or federal government to detain people without oath or affirmation, much less a warrant. Please clarify the exact circumstances that create an illegal person.
He's definitely one of the best. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like his candidacy for 2008 is real strong.
Well, he hasn't declared but I think his point of view would be well recieved in these troubling times.
He would have my vote and I think he would make mince meat out of the competition.
Would we even need a fence if illegals couldn't get jobs?
We'll never know. We will, however, discover that another amnesty won't stop further illegal immigration.
By the way, I am impressed with your performance on this thread. Lots of data, and a rather calm discourse (granted with few sharp elbows when provoked, while I prefer rather more subtle put-downs, preferably ones missed by the target :) ). You have been a good host for what you wrought, and nurtured the thread well. Kudos.
I was just listening to Newt Gingrich on http://www.rightalk.com/....btw you can still catch him, they continue to recycle the probram.
He said that amnesty would cause the rest of the world to beat a path to our door. He also said he couldn't believe that Republicans allowed the Senate bill to get out of committee, in its present form.
I said both of these things in the last week....and I'm no Newt Gingrich!
We have a second to this motion. Very well done.
Ditto and good night ;)
I think you have it backwards. There's no point in deporting someone who's back the next week. Enforcement is useless without a fence.
Of course. I thought I recognized a libertarian. I've voted libertarian in the past, though I never will again. Open borders, no standing army, no compulsory education. If we harm no one, no one will harm us. It contradicts human nature and thousands of years of human history, but it sounds good.
Imagine all the money we've wasted over the years on police and military...when all we needed to do was stand up and whine, "I'VE GOT RIGHTS!!!
I have no idea why you are posting Texas law or any other law for that matter to me, I am not a lawyer in Texas or anywhere else and I haven't even stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently.
I do know the US Border Patrol regularly stops people walking and driving in my area and apprehends many for being in this country illegally. At times they fill buses with them. I also know the Border Patrol in this area does traffic stops and apprehends illegals, as well as having fixed checkpoints on the major highways along the border. They also hold impromptu checkpoints along the traveled roads in this area with other LE agencies.
I cannot tell you what authority they use to do this, nor do I care. If you are so concerned about LE authority to require ID or apprehend illegal border crossers I suggest you take it up with the appropriate agency. Or you could simply wander around near the border and when asked to produce ID, you can refuse to. I imagine if you do that you will find out whether they have the authority to do so or not. I just cooperate when stopped by any type of LE, and I don't even want to know what happens if I choose not to. If I ever feel the urge to not cooperate I am sure I will find out then.
Camarota is no illegal alien apologist, he's quite the opposite. Until the day that we come to grips with the fact that the Federal government benefits financially from illegal aliens, we will not begin to solve this problem.
$6.4 billion dollars pumped yearly into the Federal coffers by illegal aliens who will not file to get their money back buys a whole lot of bilingual education, as well as a lot of looking-the-other-way from politicians.
We're smarter than that Luis, I'm sure you are too. Social Security taxes won't buy any bilingual education. SS taxes can only be used to pay SS benefits or administer the SS program.
US Border Patrol has special powers to arrest and detain within 50 miles of the Mexican border. 95% of our deportations are done from there
I've grasped one fact: you're not in command of your emotions, which is why you say stupid, childish things.
Well and good for you. Fortunately, there are some of us that care about our God given rights. You are welcome.
I cannot tell you what authority they use to do this, nor do I care.
This kind of active patriotism is encouraged by every socialist and Marxist regime. Be not afraid, for there are still a few Americans that will question unbridled authority. People that can not, or do not understand the authority that is granted by we the people to our civil servants; are an extreme danger to the republic. For you may wish to grant supreme authority out of wanton ignorance (not stupidity). As for me and mine, we choose free will. Even if you and yours deem it "illegal". For you see, I am an American citizen. Despite any protestations and provocations to the contrary, I have earned my citizenship; and have been extremely studious so as to never forfeit this treasure. And you?
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