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'War' on Christians Is Alleged. Conference Depicts a Culture Hostile to Evangelical Beliefs.
Washington Post ^ | 3/29/6 | Alan Cooperman

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:04:29 PM PST by Crackingham

The "War on Christmas" has morphed into a "War on Christians."

Last December, some evangelical Christian groups declared that the religious celebration of Christmas -- and even the phrase "Merry Christmas" -- was under attack by the forces of secularism. This week, radio commentator Rick Scarborough convened a conference in Washington on the "War on Christians and the Values Voters in 2006." The opening session was devoted to "reports from the frontlines" on "persecution" of Christians in the United States and Canada, including an artist whose paintings were barred from a municipal art show in Deltona, Fla., because they contained religious themes.

Among the conference's speakers were former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and Sens. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) and Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and conservative Christian leaders Phyllis Schlafly, Rod Parsley, Gary Bauer, Janet Parshall and Alan Keyes.

To many of the 400 evangelicals packed into a small ballroom at the Omni Shoreham Hotel, it was a hard but necessary look at moral relativism, hedonism and Christophobia, or fear of Christ, to pick just a few terms offered by various speakers referring to the enemy. To some outsiders, it illuminated the paranoia of the Christian right.

"Certainly religious persecution existed in our history, but to claim that these examples amount to religious persecution disrespects the experiences of people who have been jailed and died because of their faith," said Hollyn Hollman, general counsel of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

"This is a skirmish over religious pluralism, and the inclination to see it as a war against Christianity strikes me as a spoiled-brat response by Christians who have always enjoyed the privileges of a majority position," said the Rev. Robert Franklin, a minister in the Church of God in Christ and professor of social ethics at Emory University.

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To: Corin Stormhands
barred from a municipal art show in Deltona, Fla

if you include one - you include all - even muslim art

on public property ? - shouldnt happen to begin with

....and your comments regarding the Afghan Christian are spot on

121 posted on 03/29/2006 5:52:50 PM PST by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor,)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
How about being imprisoned for preaching that homosexuality is a sin?

How about being found guilty of child abuse for rasing your children as Christians?

How about loosing your job because you won't perform an abortion?

Wow, its hard to believe this is happening in our country.

Please post some links.

122 posted on 03/29/2006 6:03:49 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

"Please post some links."


http://www.harpazo.net/Notes3.html#Reading


124 posted on 03/29/2006 6:56:12 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Oztrich Boy
Well. that's the Grippimg Hand. If a group (Blacks, Chriatians, feminists, homosexuals, Michael Moore) feel they are being persurited, they are being perscuted. It's in the Declaration of Independence "Life. Liberty. and the Feeling of Persectuion"

You said it brother. Let's all whine and bitch about how we feeeeeel about things some more, 'cause that's really done everyone a lot of good. And I am not excluding for a second the morons on the left who got this whole culture of victimhood started.

125 posted on 03/29/2006 6:56:37 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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To: balch3
the attack on fair treatment of Intelligent Design is clear evidence of this.

You're kidding right?
ID is a scam cooked up by the Discovery Institute. Behe admitted under oath that for ID to be called "science" that the definition of science would have to change to include the likes of astrology. It is a belief, not a theory.
Besides, DI fellowes and numerous ID proponents here claim it has nothing to do with religion.
Or are they just deliberately misspeaking?

127 posted on 03/29/2006 7:06:32 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"Please post some links."

http://www.harpazo.net/Notes3.html#Reading

You have got to be kidding. I spent some time (time that I will unfortunately NEVER get back) perusing that website and its links. There is not a single instance of any of the items you posted earlier. It's mostly crybaby BS about how people aren't being allowed to proselytize at schools or at their jobs.

Again....boo hoo hoo, cry me a frickin' river. Y'all should get t-shirts made up that say "I'm a victim, please feel sorry for me."

128 posted on 03/29/2006 7:06:37 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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To: All
Persecution in America: refusing to give Intelligent Design the affirmative action treatment in science classes

Persecution in Afghanistan: they try to cut off your head for converting to Christianity.

129 posted on 03/29/2006 7:15:20 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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To: Doe Eyes; Chiapet

More specifics...

"How about being imprisoned for preaching that homosexuality is a sin?"

Swedish Pastor Sentenced for 'Hate Speech'
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/CWN/091004sweden.asp

The Criminalization of Christianity
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/050210a.asp


How about being found guilty of child abuse for rasing your children as Christians?

Religion ‘a form of child abuse’
http://www.sundayherald.com/53427

Calif. Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added To DSM ('Homophobia' a disorder?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566731/posts



" How about loosing your job because you won't perform an abortion?"

Fired EMT Sues After Refusing to Transport Woman for Abortion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134472/posts

Nurse fired for refusing to give abortion pill -Files Suit Claiming Religious Beliefs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431146/posts




130 posted on 03/29/2006 7:37:48 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Potowmack

"And the fact that a born-again, evangelical Christian could never be elected to be President."

Oh my GOSH!!!! I completely forgot about that terrible fact. It's just awful that this whole string of atheists and Muslims has been elected president.


131 posted on 03/29/2006 7:49:31 PM PST by Gone GF
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To: MineralMan

pinging you to #130 fro reference material.


132 posted on 03/29/2006 8:09:17 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Corin Stormhands

>>>But as a Christian it's a bit embarrassing to be complaining about censored "Christian" art when a Christian in Afghanistan just barely got out of the country with his life.<<<

Embarassing how?


133 posted on 03/29/2006 8:14:58 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: jude24

>>>We trivialize the word "persection" when we make it refer to trivial matters like Christmas displays.<<<

Christians should keep their mouths shut until they are being fed to the lions, right?


134 posted on 03/29/2006 8:18:20 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

>>>I see Christians being pushed into a corner in this country. Somewhere we are going to have to draw a line in the sand and fight for our religious liberties. If we don't then I can only conclude that it must be God's will for the Church in America to undergo a great persecution.<<<

The Book of The Revelation, Chapter 12, talks about Satan's war against Christians in the last days. While reading, keep in mind that the "man child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron" is not Jesus, but the annointed one who appears in the last days. Rev 2:26-27 provides Jesus' Word on the matter.

This verse summarizes our current situation: "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" -- Revelation 12:17


135 posted on 03/29/2006 8:29:09 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: scory

Just for curiosity, why do you insert 'G-d' in place of 'God'. Are you ashamed of writing 'God'? What gives?


136 posted on 03/29/2006 8:32:35 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: NathanR

"I consider firing someone for their religious beliefs, persecution. In this country, we usually don't kill someone for anything other than murder. However, we are starting to deny people jobs, if they take a stand on certain moral issues. At this time, those issues are usually abortion or homosexuality."


Since homosexuals have been routinely denied employment for their "stand on certain moral issues", I assume you acknowledge that the Homos are being persecuted?


137 posted on 03/29/2006 8:38:24 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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persecute

One entry found for persecute.

Main Entry: per·se·cute
Pronunciation: 'p&r-si-"kyüt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -cut·ed; -cut·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French persecuter, back-formation from persecuteur persecutor, from Late Latin persecutor, from persequi to persecute, from Latin, to pursue, from per- through + sequi to follow -- more at SUE
1 : to harass in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief
2 : to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities) : PESTER
138 posted on 03/29/2006 9:19:53 PM PST by DocRock
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To: EarnestWorm

Uh... you may have noticed I said "based", not "carbon copied". If you want to maintain as many do that the founding fathers had atheist leanings and weren't influenced by the commandments, so be it. However, since you consider those "Lord" statements unconstituional consider a legal government document that ends:
"Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth."
This is of course the Constitution, the summation before Washington started the delegates'signatures. The year 1787 does seem to indicate that the "Lord" mentioned was in fact Jesus. They could have distanced themselves a bit by using Anno Domini, the latin version, or maybe gone a bit further with the simple A.D., but clearly no one felt the need.
Contrast this with the modern desperation to remove crosses from images and Commandments from courthouses.


139 posted on 03/29/2006 9:23:18 PM PST by syncked
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To: syncked
I have found a lot of good reference material on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs at the Library of Congress web site. I use it to help educate my children as they won't get this info in the local schools.
140 posted on 03/29/2006 9:34:51 PM PST by DocRock
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