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A Creator's Possible Calling Card
Sky & Telescope Magazine ^ | December 23, 2005 | Robert Naeye

Posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:32 PM PST by Brilliant

If our universe was purposefully created — perhaps by a deity or an advanced civilization in another universe — could the Creator have left a calling card? The idea is not as crazy as it seems. Renowned cosmologists such as Andre Linde (Stanford University) and Alan Guth (MIT) have speculated that an advanced civilization could, in principle, cook up a new universe in a lab by concentrating huge quantities of energy into a tiny volume of space. And even the avowed agnostic Carl Sagan concocted a story at the very end of his sci-fi novel Contact of how scientists discover a message from the Creator embedded deep inside the number pi.

In a paper posted on astro-ph, physicists Stephen Hsu (University of Oregon) and Anthony Zee (University of California, Santa Barbara) come up with an alternative idea: astronomers can look for a message from the Creator in the cosmic microwave background (CMB) — the echo of the Big Bang.

"Our work does not support the Intelligent Design movement in any way whatsoever, but asks, and attempts to answer, the entirely scientific question of what the medium and message might be IF there was actually a message," write the authors.

The trick, say Hsu and Zee, is for the Creator to fine-tune the inflaton field — the field responsible for inflating the early universe — to encode a binary message in the subtle hot and cold spots of the CMB. As the authors note, the CMB is a "giant billboard on the sky" visible to all civilizations in all galaxies. Because different regions of the universe are so far apart that they are not causally connected, only a cosmos Creator could place a message in the CMB that all civilizations could detect.

Given the limited number of distinct regions of the sky of any fixed size, Hsu and Zee calculate that the message could include up to 100,000 bits of information. Such a message might, for example, reveal fundamental laws of physics. While current experiments like NASA's WMAP satellite do not have sufficient angular resolution or sensitivity to detect the extremely small-scale temperature fluctuations that would encode the message, future instruments might be capable of doing so. The authors urge that scientists analyze subsequent CMB data for possible patterns. "This may be even more fun than SETI," they conclude (SETI is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence).

In another paper posted on astro-ph, Douglas Scott and James P. Zibin (University of British Columbia, Canada) counter that Hsu and Zee overestimate the amount of information that can be encoded in the CMB.

Hsu responds, "Both groups agree that one can encode a universal message in the CMB. But we disagree as to its maximal information content."

The cosmic microwave background (CMB) is leftover radiation from the Big Bang redshifted (stretched) by the universe's expansion into the microwave region of the spectrum. In this image NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) records minuscule temperature fluctuations in the CMB as different colors. In principle, an advanced civilization could create a universe and encode information in the CMB that would let civilizations in the offspring universe know that their universe had been purposefully created. NASA / WMAP Science Team.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; god; science
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To: King Prout
You misunderstood the message. It says:

DEAR FRIEND, I HAVE FUNDS I MUST MOVE OUT OF MY GALAXY, AND I TRUST YOU TO HELP ME DEPOSIT 50 MILLION QUATLUS IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.

81 posted on 03/23/2006 6:25:25 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


82 posted on 03/23/2006 6:27:04 PM PST by kalee
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To: King Prout

You've out-hipped me, damn you!


83 posted on 03/23/2006 6:29:51 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: PatrickHenry

Who has the science fiction ping list?


84 posted on 03/23/2006 6:30:04 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: PatrickHenry

that was just the cover-sheet. skip ahead to the revealations in the real message body...

wowzers!

hey... there's *your* bank account's routing number and access code!


85 posted on 03/23/2006 6:30:32 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Wrong. A turtle did it.


86 posted on 03/23/2006 6:31:03 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Right Wing Professor

I'm having a good night, as repayment for a bad day :)


87 posted on 03/23/2006 6:31:15 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: js1138

So that thing in the middle is a cosmic security hole?


88 posted on 03/23/2006 6:31:42 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: generally
Of course, that just begs the question, who created the advanced civilization?

I did, but SHHH, don't tell anyone.

89 posted on 03/23/2006 6:31:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: RightWhale

There seems to be alot of "science" lately that will come out and proclaim something like "Evidence shows that if it gets warmer, more ice will melt"

Making eye catching headlines must be the new metric for excellence.

And a posit like this article suggests is unprovable. Seemingly intelligent structure occurs all over the place.


90 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:30 PM PST by djf (Deal??? Tell the banker to bite me!!!)
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To: generally
IIRC, there was a Star Trek episode about some type of message coded in our genes (in the introns) from our "creators".

Yes, Star Trek was deeply religious, the religion being ancestor worship.

91 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:34 PM PST by sphinx
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To: The Red Zone

Cyclical evolution would be Hindu.


92 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:56 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Lx

An old lady is explaining cosmology to a prominant physicist (Newton, Heisenberg, Bohr, whoever), and says earth rides on the back of a turtle. Is that a Hindu myth?


93 posted on 03/23/2006 6:33:10 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Brilliant

Not a problem. I still place my trust in the one who created the universe as well as that advanced society.


94 posted on 03/23/2006 6:33:41 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: Brilliant

Who created the advanced civilization? Where did they come from?


95 posted on 03/23/2006 6:34:43 PM PST by LittleBoPeep
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To: djf

It seems like a lot of speculation is passing for science these days, but that is an illusion on FR and in the daily news. Actual science remains just where it has been for most of a century and is more hard-core than ever--in the peer-reviewed journals.


96 posted on 03/23/2006 6:36:00 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: From many - one.
Who has the science fiction ping list?

KevinDavis

97 posted on 03/23/2006 6:36:23 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: From many - one.
Who has the science fiction ping list?

Science-fiction, evo-moonism, same thing.

98 posted on 03/23/2006 6:37:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Pontiac; woofie

Both wrong.

It was a mathematical expression describing a dance sequence: an Al Gore Rhythm.

(recycled, but I like it)


99 posted on 03/23/2006 6:39:05 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Brilliant
Why are there still monkees?


100 posted on 03/23/2006 6:39:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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