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A Creator's Possible Calling Card
Sky & Telescope Magazine ^ | December 23, 2005 | Robert Naeye

Posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:32 PM PST by Brilliant

If our universe was purposefully created — perhaps by a deity or an advanced civilization in another universe — could the Creator have left a calling card? The idea is not as crazy as it seems. Renowned cosmologists such as Andre Linde (Stanford University) and Alan Guth (MIT) have speculated that an advanced civilization could, in principle, cook up a new universe in a lab by concentrating huge quantities of energy into a tiny volume of space. And even the avowed agnostic Carl Sagan concocted a story at the very end of his sci-fi novel Contact of how scientists discover a message from the Creator embedded deep inside the number pi.

In a paper posted on astro-ph, physicists Stephen Hsu (University of Oregon) and Anthony Zee (University of California, Santa Barbara) come up with an alternative idea: astronomers can look for a message from the Creator in the cosmic microwave background (CMB) — the echo of the Big Bang.

"Our work does not support the Intelligent Design movement in any way whatsoever, but asks, and attempts to answer, the entirely scientific question of what the medium and message might be IF there was actually a message," write the authors.

The trick, say Hsu and Zee, is for the Creator to fine-tune the inflaton field — the field responsible for inflating the early universe — to encode a binary message in the subtle hot and cold spots of the CMB. As the authors note, the CMB is a "giant billboard on the sky" visible to all civilizations in all galaxies. Because different regions of the universe are so far apart that they are not causally connected, only a cosmos Creator could place a message in the CMB that all civilizations could detect.

Given the limited number of distinct regions of the sky of any fixed size, Hsu and Zee calculate that the message could include up to 100,000 bits of information. Such a message might, for example, reveal fundamental laws of physics. While current experiments like NASA's WMAP satellite do not have sufficient angular resolution or sensitivity to detect the extremely small-scale temperature fluctuations that would encode the message, future instruments might be capable of doing so. The authors urge that scientists analyze subsequent CMB data for possible patterns. "This may be even more fun than SETI," they conclude (SETI is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence).

In another paper posted on astro-ph, Douglas Scott and James P. Zibin (University of British Columbia, Canada) counter that Hsu and Zee overestimate the amount of information that can be encoded in the CMB.

Hsu responds, "Both groups agree that one can encode a universal message in the CMB. But we disagree as to its maximal information content."

The cosmic microwave background (CMB) is leftover radiation from the Big Bang redshifted (stretched) by the universe's expansion into the microwave region of the spectrum. In this image NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) records minuscule temperature fluctuations in the CMB as different colors. In principle, an advanced civilization could create a universe and encode information in the CMB that would let civilizations in the offspring universe know that their universe had been purposefully created. NASA / WMAP Science Team.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; god; science
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To: zeeba neighba; hootiebird
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41 posted on 03/23/2006 5:33:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Terriergal
I know, they told us in our second grade science books...

I, for one, am impressed you even made it through that one.

42 posted on 03/23/2006 5:33:59 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: zeeba neighba

tsk.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 5:34:11 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: generally

Well, somebody had to. :)


44 posted on 03/23/2006 5:34:26 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; hootiebird

You got that right,lol


45 posted on 03/23/2006 5:34:30 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: zeeba neighba
"You got that right,lol"

Glad you argree that your posts are poison.
46 posted on 03/23/2006 5:35:33 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: PatrickHenry
I've found the message!

And thanks for all the fish..

47 posted on 03/23/2006 5:37:18 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

lol


48 posted on 03/23/2006 5:38:13 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: zeeba neighba
"lol"

Best response you've ever made.
49 posted on 03/23/2006 5:40:06 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

lol, lol


50 posted on 03/23/2006 5:40:47 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: generally
Of course, that just begs the question, who created the advanced civilization?

I don't know about that, but it certainly may raise the question.

</Grammar Police>

51 posted on 03/23/2006 5:40:55 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Diplomacy is what you do after you kick the enemy's ass and define their lives afterward)
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To: zeeba neighba

52 posted on 03/23/2006 5:41:00 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: hootiebird; zeeba neighba

Poor little hootiebird, run while it's still time.

The sky is falling hootiebird....run, run, run for your life.

53 posted on 03/23/2006 5:42:01 PM PST by ml1954
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To: PatrickHenry
Now over 360 names.

"Oh, you terrible man; you will be condemned to squirm for eternity in the "Chair of Flatulence" within the "Lake of Fire" for compiling your diabolical ping list."

;-)

54 posted on 03/23/2006 5:42:14 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: zeeba neighba
"lol, lol"

Wow! You've doubled your best response! You must be proud.
55 posted on 03/23/2006 5:43:15 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Brilliant
'God's calling card' is everywhere.

"The heavens declare the glory of God!"

56 posted on 03/23/2006 5:43:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Brilliant

I'll be impressed if the results tell whether the Euler-Mascheroni constant is rational or not. That would be a real feather to stick in their cap.


57 posted on 03/23/2006 5:43:29 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry
All observers should see the same thing, regardless of their location. That's the nature of the CMB.

The article states;

to encode a binary message in the subtle hot and cold spots of the CMB.

This part of the article states that there are differences in the CMB across the Universe.

If there are differences time and the expansion of the Universe will change the appearance of the CMB.

If the CMB exist in three dimensions it will appear differently from different places in the Universe and if the CMB is expanding in three dimensions it will appear differently as time passes.

58 posted on 03/23/2006 5:44:43 PM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: zeeba neighba

Knock it off.


59 posted on 03/23/2006 5:46:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: phantomworker

Guth is well known among astronomers as a maverick with wacko ideas.


60 posted on 03/23/2006 5:47:20 PM PST by Brilliant
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