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The Doctor Will See You for Exactly Seven Minutes
NY Times ^ | March 22, 2006 | PETER SALGO

Posted on 03/23/2006 3:47:56 PM PST by neverdem

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To: ladyinred
horrific HMO type insurance.

Sure, some HMO's are horrific. Others are quite good. We all have different health care needs. What is truly horrific is that our choices are often limited to what our employers or the gov't provide.
Too bad we can't all choose the type of insurance that suits us best.

21 posted on 03/23/2006 4:48:28 PM PST by speekinout
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To: krb

By the way in the ER about 1/3 of our "customers" never pay us a dime. Imagine if we really treated them like deadbeat customers instead of patients....


22 posted on 03/23/2006 4:49:28 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Centurion2000

Often, it's who you know. Our family doctor is also a personal friend. He will go to any length to pull strings for us.
I had to have an angiogram in September and he was there, at 7 AM to watch, and gave me the results as soon as they wheeled me out of the Cath lab. He will also call the ER if anyone in our family has to make a visit, at an ungodly hour, and believe me they take us to triage immediately.
His staff loses patience with him because he will not be rushed when he's with a patient. He's an angel!


23 posted on 03/23/2006 4:52:40 PM PST by surrey
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To: johniegrad

My dr schedules 6 patients/hour and words 3 days a week.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 4:55:21 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: onyx
You treat "patients" as if they were members of your family. You talk to them. You comfort them. You take time to explain to them what the future may hold in store. Sometimes, that future will be bleak. But you assure them you will be there to help them face it.

/trying desperately not to burst-*ping!*

25 posted on 03/23/2006 4:58:46 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Fishing-guy

60 minutes? Try waiting two hours for a 1 minute appointment. Doctor wanted to show me some lab results, no need to undress or weigh in or anything. I was really ticked off.

What really got me was when the drug company sales rep got to see him before me. Of course she was hot but still.


26 posted on 03/23/2006 5:00:48 PM PST by Swiss
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To: tacticalogic; Panzerlied
Maybe. And maybe a liberal NY newpaper might have an ulterior motive to help gin up a health-care "crisis" that needs "someone" to "solve".

The author of this OpEd column is an OpEd Contributor, i.e. a guest columnist. The thrust of the column was for patients to refuse to be treated like crap. I you read to the end of the column you could have noticed the following:

Peter Salgo, a professor at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, is an internist and anesthesiologist, as well as the host of the PBS series "Second Opinion."

27 posted on 03/23/2006 5:01:12 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: The_Republican

I have gone to a naturopath a few times. I remember sitting in the waiting room a little annoyed that I had to wait so long for her to finish with a patient. It was probably half an hour to 45 minutes. I say only a little because she spent just as long on my appointment. Of course, I was also the last appointment of the day.


28 posted on 03/23/2006 5:02:45 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: Swiss

"What really got me was when the drug company sales rep got to see him before me. Of course she was hot but still."

Same thing happened to me too. Boy, did I let the receptionists know it:)

Actually they apologized and told me that the drug rep did not see the doctor and only got a signature.


29 posted on 03/23/2006 5:04:46 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: neverdem; All

drat, correction

If you read to the end of the column you could have noticed the following:

Peter Salgo, a professor at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, is an internist and anesthesiologist, as well as the host of the PBS series "Second Opinion."


30 posted on 03/23/2006 5:06:58 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Centurion2000
Why did you have to wait for 12 hours? Were there that many people ILLEGALS in the ER?

And that's the problem in a nutshell.


31 posted on 03/23/2006 5:08:43 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Centurion2000
She sounds like mine. She asks many questions and seems to never be a a hurry.

She really kept my husband going much longer than many thought she could.

My friend that went to her always said she had to wait past her appointment time to see the doctor. She also said she didn't mind because she felt the doctor was talking with some one that most likely needed the time.

The doctor is never in a hurry and she told me, [not a quote] tests are fine but she can understand better if she talks with a patient, she surely ask questions.
32 posted on 03/23/2006 5:11:53 PM PST by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: neverdem
I noticed that business jargon was becoming commonplace. "Patients" began to disappear. They were replaced by "consumers." They eventually became "customers."

I hope those who died and were organ doners didn't become "suppliers."

-PJ

33 posted on 03/23/2006 5:17:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Kozak
The "customer" is the person paying the bill. And that is frequently NOT the patient. It's his insurance company or his boss or the Federal Government.

Zactly.

34 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:26 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Kozak
Imagine if we really treated them like deadbeat customers instead of patients....

I am liking what I am imagining ;-)

35 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:36 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: RichInOC

Animal House reference! WOOHOO!


36 posted on 03/23/2006 5:20:24 PM PST by Toby06 (Jail employers of illegal immigrants.)
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To: Fishing-guy

I learned the hard way.

After trying to ride out what I can only describe as a horrific pain in what I thought was my stomach area, I checked myself in, for the very first time, into Johns Hopkins Emergency, here in Baltimore.

After describing the pain level as a 10 out of 10 the nurse told me to wait until my name was called. I waited close to four hours before I was asked to walk up to another part of the hospital where after scans were taken and another two hours went by, I was finally diagnosed with having a Kidney stone and then, and only then was given something (morphine) for my pain.I was then told to go home.
That almost 8 hours of torture was quickly followed by a hefty bill.

When I shared my experience with neighbors they let me on a little secret everyone in Baltimore except me , knows.

When you go to the ER, even if it's a headache....you scream and cry before you even get out of your car.....you demand a wheel chair, you can't even walk...your dieing.....Your gonna sue..... That explains why about 30 people went ahead of me and, the guess was, unlike me, most of them probably were not covered by health insurence.

I will never bad mouth a dope addict again.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 5:22:51 PM PST by TET1968
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To: neverdem

They still trying to make doctors or just licensed pill pushers.....?;O)

Seems all they want to do these days is treat a symptom vs the cause.


38 posted on 03/23/2006 5:23:05 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Kozak
When I take care of a patient my responsibility is to do my best for that patient. The "customer" is the person paying the bill. And that is frequently NOT the patient. It's his insurance company or his boss or the Federal Government. Thats exactly where a lot of the conflicts in modern medicine arise, where the "customer" wants me to do something one way and the patient would not benefit from that action.

Thank you for posting that clear dose of reality.

39 posted on 03/23/2006 5:23:53 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: neverdem

I went to a doctor last summer for what I assumed was an intestinal flu. The doctor was only willing to see me for about ten minutes. He might have been willing to go longer, but he ended the conversation rather abruptly by saying "you need to go the hospital right now."

It turns out I had a ruptured appendix. I was rushed into surgery and pulled through.

One hundred years ago, the plan for patients with my condition was "you die." Believe me, I'll take the hurry-up nature of modern medicine any day.


40 posted on 03/23/2006 5:24:03 PM PST by Our man in washington
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