Posted on 03/23/2006 9:20:32 AM PST by beaversmom
Brazil was a great movie, edgy visually and story wise.
There was zero new ground broken with V, other than it's the first pro-terrorist movie since 9/11, well 2nd if you count Farenheit 9/11.
I love Brazil, no argument there.
I don't think V was pro-terrorist. V declared war on the government and attacked government installations and high ranking government officials. The government is a valid target in a war. Yes he secretly planted bombs, but when you're one against many frontal assaults don't work too well, Navy SEALS tend to be a bit sneaky too. As for new ground it's over worshipped, the primary goal of a movie is to tell a good story well and hopefully make some money in the process. Some stories require new ground to be broken, most don't. John Wayne never broke a lot of new ground, but most of his movies are still awesome.
Maybe I'm missing something here.
Granted, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I may eventually. But for as long as there have been movies, there have been futuristic movies about oppressive governments and the rebels who rally together and fight for freedom. Was Star Wars a "pro-terrorist" movie? No. (Although a lot of innocent independent contractors on the 2nd Death Star were blown up by rebels) Then why is V for Vendetta being labeled as such?
It's time to crticize the heck out of so-called movie reviewers who glorify vile movies.
I loved it. I was a little disappointed that the book's story was dumbed down for the movie. The book left V a very morally ambiguous character, one you could love and despise at the same time. It also raised the question, what is terrorism? Some of V's actions are questionable, but can they be justified, given that he's fighting against an oppressive government?
That said, the movie is still more intelligent than most of the Hollywood dreck out there.
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The bots have gotten the idea into their heads that the movie is an attack on Bush (rather than an attack on totalitiarianism), and aren't about to be bothered with little things like facts.
There used to be a rule somewhere (movies, maybe comics) that the bad guy had to get his. Crime doesn't pay. But no one cares if the bad guy gets his, they only care if he's cool. And you don't care about the tacked-on anti-homosexual and anti-muslim aspects of the government in this movie. In fact, you don't even care that it's the government that's evil, rather than society. You only see a revoloution, by one man, against a powerful system gone corrupt.
Yeah it would have been nice if they'd left V as an anarchist who might not be (and probably isn't) any better than the government he's opposing. One of the things that makes the GN so interesting is that he's really not a good guy, he just happens to be fighting another bad guy. But taken on it's own and ignoring the GN, and ignoring the ham handed "Bush is evil" sections, it's a pretty good movie.
Medved usually tries not to give away the ending but he can be a bit pissy at times. :)
Ping - Medved on V for Vendetta...
It may give some insight to know that one of the Wachowski brothers is an "in-progress" transsexual who decided to shack up with a hard core Hollywood S&M prostitute after the success of the first Matrix movie. Just a regular guy, huh?
oh snap
If the Bush administration was like the British government in V for Vendetta, I would support freedom fighters trying to bring the government down.
But the Bush administration can only be compared to the V for Vendetta governemnt in the minds of fevered, irrational leftists.
"The Wachowski brothers..."
Shouldn't that be the "Wachowski brother and sister?" I thought one of them was undergoing a sex change and was the main reason for his (her?) divorce during the last Matrix movie.
"feel such hatred for the film's fictional government — described as both conservative and Christian, persecuting Muslims and gays"
He forgets that by 2020 the goverment in London will be conservative and Muslim,persecuting Christians and gays.
People have different opinions about movies. A number of people on this thread liked this one for example.
Saw the movie. Clearly has the 9/11 govt conspiracy feel. The movie trailer shows Parliament blowing up at the end so that's no secret. It's a little sad though to posit that all the glazed-out citizens who'd sheepishly given over their freedoms now blow up an institution dating to the mid-13th century--and return to anarchy.
I don't favor totalitarianism over anarchy, but it's a well-known fact that most societies do.
My biggest complaint about the movie as entertainment is how impossible it is to identify with a person in a mask for the whole picture. It's creepy and cold and alien--sort of like watching a robot.
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