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Shallow Men And The Women Who Suffer (The Male Lust For The Supermodel Perfect Mate Alert)
Jerusalem Post ^ | Rabbi Shmueley Boteach

Posted on 03/18/2006 7:03:00 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: HitmanLV

I see a lot of pretty women play DUMB too. If enough guys encounter easy girls who act like bubbleheads, what's a guy supposed to think?


361 posted on 03/19/2006 12:45:50 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cyborg
I see a lot of pretty women play DUMB too. If enough guys encounter easy girls who act like bubbleheads, what's a guy supposed to think?

There you go, that's part of it too. And there is more. That being said, the association isn't a fair one and anybody who thinks about it for 15 mins should come to the conclusion that, in itself, there's not reason to think anything ill of a person's character just because they are goodlooking.

I tell guys all the time just talk to the woman like an adult, see what she is like. Give her a chance and if you are going to reject her, do it on substantive grounds, not because of a bigotry. Just feel her up...I mean out! Out! Sorry, little slip there! ;-)

362 posted on 03/19/2006 12:49:14 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: gop_gene

I think she was very young in that photo and still had some 'baby fat'. Might even be a highschool picture. I agree that it might have led to her extreme thinness now.


363 posted on 03/19/2006 12:51:20 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Three Stooges knucklehead pingaroonie!!!


364 posted on 03/19/2006 12:51:27 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: cyborg

"When a man is looking at a Shakira lookalike he is NOT thinking about her good health."

He's not thinking that consciously, but that's what his genes are telling him whether he realizes it or not. The result is him thinking only of your rear end.

What men wants an ugly, unhealthy, genetically weak to sickness and disease child who will be a financial liability? Can any men chime in here, please????

Before modern medicine high infant mortality weeded out those that couldn't handle the rigors of physical hardships whether they were disease or the hard life on the farm.

Women who were homely and unattractive and didn't have money died as old maids. Men even then pursued women that looked physically attractive and healthy in order to promote survival of the future children. If they had a good genetic lineage mostly devoid of genetic abnormalities they were prized. And if they had money that was even better.

You better go back and read how difficult life was before modern technology. Our world has become so easy to live in these days we forget about the old and hard ways survival of the fittest ruled. Liberals didn't have much of a say because what they said got lead to do death real quick.

We men (and women) forget those realities and focus on our own base wants and needs like women's rear end only not realizing what is really behind that genetically bred desire (through influence of a hard environment) of a women's rear end!

The Torah (that's the Bible for you in Rio Linda) was given to shape mankind spiritually in light of the harsh realities of our environment. Jews led the fight to bring that light to the nations which has benefitted the nations greatly. With the advent of secular age back early 1800s after the end of the Spanish Inquisition (1810) there has been a war led by Jews to destroy any sign of God's presence and debase mankind into an animal. Men must look both at the physical side of a woman as well as the spiritual side. Both must be in balance Daniel-san.

From what I can see God is putting secularism to an end and people are returning to Biblcal values that will promote faith, family, fortune, and flag.

Women have complained long enough about how bad men are. If you want to have good men in this world you need to do two things. Marry a good man and teach your boys to value women based on the teachings in Bible. The ball is in your court. Let the complaining end and the actions toward creating better men begin.

The word in Hebrew for "woman, feminine" has the same root as the Hebrew word for "hope." Let's hope that the trends of women return to the home, teaching Conservative values based on the Torah through homeschooling, and letting the men be the bread winner continue. Prayer is what has helped bring this about.

It's rather funny but the Hebrew word for "war" has its root in the Hebrew word for "bread."


365 posted on 03/19/2006 12:52:50 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: Gondring

It's possible she is not a 'practicing' Catholic now, so just calls herself a Christian rather than naming a denomination.


366 posted on 03/19/2006 12:55:55 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: elcid1970

Don't want one, huh?


367 posted on 03/19/2006 12:56:36 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: grey_whiskers

I really like those books. I should read them again. Lot of wisdom and a really good story.

Funny - usually I spell it "grey" but it popped out "gray".

To me, grey with an e is more a coolish grey, and gray with an a is a warmer gray.

I like cool grey myself!


368 posted on 03/19/2006 12:56:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: Melas; Smarti Pants; lainie; CaliGirlGodHelpMe
Wow, that sounds more than just a little bitter.

Nah...just sad to see so many nice young ladies decide that they'd rather let themselves get abused in order to land a flashy "hunk" (or nowdays, the "Alpha Male") and then regret it later. Often when they realize what a mess they've brought kids into, they escape from it--but then wonder why the stable, honest guys aren't waiting around to take them back and raise their kids, etc.

One actually wanted me to dump my then-fiancée for her, saying: "But you said you thought we were so good together!" (To which I replied: "Yes, but you did a very good job in convincing me I was wrong about that, when you broke things off...remember?")

lainie is right in saying , and it also doesn't mean that all women who initially go for the "flash" are like that. I've had very honest and humble attempts to re-connect, and there's nothing wrong with that...heck, I would have even loved to raise a woman's children by another man if the connection were right. But it surprised me how common the clueless and arrogant attitude seems to be these days.

369 posted on 03/19/2006 12:57:21 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

What women want from men:

1. Someone to bring home a paycheck (even if she works too).
2. Someone to take out the trash
3. Someone kill bugs or mice if they get in the house.

Other than that, we're superfluous.


370 posted on 03/19/2006 12:57:23 PM PST by gregwest
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To: goldstategop
but because she "found grace and favor" in the eyes of all who beheld her.

Maybe it was that she was wall trained by the harem staff on how to properly please a man!

And it starts by not interupting the came unless it is to fetch another six pack and more food.

371 posted on 03/19/2006 12:59:52 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: goldstategop
but because she "found grace and favor" in the eyes of all who beheld her.

Maybe it was that she was wall trained by the harem staff on how to properly please a man!

And it starts by not interupting the Game unless it is to fetch another six pack and more food.

372 posted on 03/19/2006 1:00:09 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: beyond the sea

LOL, you're going to get in trouble like I did!!

[perennial nursery] WOW, can you be my Q&A gardening man??


373 posted on 03/19/2006 1:00:54 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: marajade

"Thankfully, you don't speak for everyone. I would definitely find that kind of a relationship absolutely horrible."

That kind of relationship has worked for mankind for 6000 years. Why should I change now?

God designed women to be relationship/cooperation devices.

God designed men to be competition devices.

God designed their designs to complement one another in harmony. Ying and Ying baby. The Torah is the instruction/owners manual for the way men should treat women and women should treat men in harmony. If we learn to harness our physical natures and principles of this universe with the spiritual ones we can dwell in harmony both with each other and nature.

Since you don't like God's design can you suggest a better one? I'm looking to find someone who can one up God - the Omnisicient, the Ominipresent, the Never Ending One.


374 posted on 03/19/2006 1:00:56 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: marajade

"Can you live with someone outside the faith? I find it disengenious."

No, I cannot live with a woman that will inculcate values into my future children that are contrary to what I believe based in Torah. She follows me and my faith and my traditions. Women by their nature are followers while men by their nature are leaders and risk takers.

I am being completely genuine with you. If I tick you off or any other women out there I suggest you re-read the instructions for life and see where you might be mistaken.


375 posted on 03/19/2006 1:04:59 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: vwunpimsmyride
Because women are looking for men who are smarter than them (as well as taller, and richer).

Who fed you this nonsense? I've yet to meet a woman who opined that she couldn't find a man smarter than she was. Most folks (women included) are in the market for intellectual equals. Conversation just flows better between equals. Imagine that.

FYI, my wife is 11" taller than I am. Virtually every woman I ever dated was taller, and all of my actual relationships were with women who were taller than I am.

376 posted on 03/19/2006 1:09:11 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: durasell

"On the other hand, most men don't really give it much thought beyond, "look at them headlights!" "

That's why it's important for women to stay home and teach their boys not to just look at the "headlights." But I can never pass up a good set of headlights. I very much appreciate them and thank God and say a blessing for seeing a beautiful women every time. There is a specific blessing in the Jewish Siddur (prayer book) which says upon seeing a good looking woman:

"Blessed are you, Lord our G-d, King of the Universe, who has such in His universe."

Men, take time to appreciate the physical beauty when you see it. Take time to appreciate them for their spiritual beauty as well.


377 posted on 03/19/2006 1:10:50 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: Melas

Kudos.


378 posted on 03/19/2006 1:11:24 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: ScubieNuc

Amen


379 posted on 03/19/2006 1:11:47 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: SauronOfMordor
I was thinking more of along the lines of the dirty, smelly, toothless welfare bums that were prevalent where we used to live. They had the attitude that was described, that of being picky and thinking they were God's gift to women and were entitled to a knock out, or that a knockout would even be interested. They still found someone but ugh... You're right though. Even 5% is enough of a return to encourage the guy and keep him going. That guy you knew sounds a lot smarter than most people would realize, lack of education not withstanding. He wasn't deceitful, and he did it where appropriate.
380 posted on 03/19/2006 1:22:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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