Posted on 03/14/2006 10:49:13 AM PST by LouAvul
Intelligent design theory is creating quite a stir.
Most recently Kentucky Gov. Ernie Fletcher said he supported school boards teaching Intelligent Design. In December, a Pennsylvania judge ruled against a Dover Township school board decision to include the theory in text books, costing the taxpayers about a million dollars in legal fees. Movements to begin teaching the intelligent design theory have popped up in dozens of states forcing local legislators and courts to address the issue.
The concept is simple: Were humans created by some sort of intelligent designer, possibly a deity, or by did we evolve scientifically based on Charles Darwin’s theories of natural selection?
However, as parents, school boards and taxpayers debate the larger issue, students locally have shared some interesting views.
Clarksville High School junior Kyle Banks is a member of Morton Memorial United Methodist Church and said he believes God created the world and its inhabitants, but has adapted to the idea of keeping his church beliefs separate from his schoolwork.
“I don’t necessarily agree with (evolution), but I don’t mind it, as long as they teach it as a theory,” Banks said.
Indiana’s educational standards concerning evolution were developed five years ago by a 60-person committee made up of teachers, scientists, administrators and parents.
In the ninth grade, students are taught how living things function in their environment through laboratory and field work, according to information from the Indiana Department of Education. The goal is to help students recognize that living organisms are made of cell or cell products that consist of the same parts as other matter, involve the same kinds of transformations of energy and move using the same kinds of basic forces.
“It’s based on getting a logical idea and testing the hypothesis,” said David Winship Taylor, head of biology at Indiana University Southeast in New Albany, who has expertise in the area of evolutionary botany. “We know we have genetic variations and changes in genetic variation — and we have time.”
Students interviewed for this story came from extreme religious to agnostic backgrounds and each one said they looked at learning evolution as just another one of their academic requirements. With the exception of Banks, all were open to the idea of adding intelligent design to classroom discussion.
“If we have a problem with evolution, we could go into the hallway or office,” said Quincy Jones, a New Albany High School senior.
During his ninth grade study of evolution, Jones couldn’t remember one student leaving the classroom for personal reasons related to the topic.
“It wasn’t forced upon us, we just went over theory,” added NAHS sophomore Stephanie Medley.
A local youth minister supports the idea of teaching the competing theories.
“I think the students would benefit from hearing both sides of the story,” said Chris Tanner, a youth minister at Georgetown Christian Church. “You can teach it without saying it’s a God to who you’re held accountable. You could just say ‘a creator.’”
Matt Holloway, a Clarksville High School junior and also a member of Morton Memorial, has come up with his own hybrid belief that blended the ideas of evolution and religion.
“I probably have a different belief than most people,” Holloway said. “I view it as evolution and creation can co-exist.
“I believe in God and that he created all humans and if he wanted to create humans that could evolve, he could do that.”
Clarksville High School Science Teacher Sherri Abromavage said sensitivity is still a factor when discussing evolution.
“We’re just seeing how science explains some of the questions we have,” Abromavage said.
To date, she said she has never had a student not complete the evolution portion on her biology class because they were uncomfortable with the theory.
“Once they realize they’re not expected to give up their personal beliefs, they’re fine,” Abromavage said.
However, there are a few schools within Clark and Floyd counties where God and science are on the same syllabus.
“We teach the principles behind evolution and we include the means of origins, the origin of that idea and why scientists believe that,” said Tim Ferree, assistant principal and former science teacher at Christian Academy in New Albany. “We teach is the biblical record of origins.”
It makes for more well-rounded students to present them with all the information, Ferree said.
“Both ideas of how we got here are accepted by many different people and an educated person has to know all the ideas,” Ferree said. “There’s going to be some overlap in some areas and you have to open your eyes to that. “We shouldn’t be afraid to take a look at different types of origins.”
However, as far as teaching creationism in public schools, the U.S. Supreme Court has made its position quite clear.
“Evolution is a scientific fact and the problem one has when one teaches something besides evolution is you’re going to be teaching opinion, and usually a religious opinion, and that raises first amendment concerns,” said Ken Falk, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana.
In Kentucky, the word “evolution” was recently deleted from guidelines of what Kentucky public school students should know and be tested on when officials from the state education department substituted the phrase ”change over time” for evolution.
Deputy Commissioner Gene Wilhoit said he and other Kentucky state department officials saw no need to keep the word evolution in the guidelines for high school and middle school students.
“The word is a lightning rod that creates a diversion from what we’re teaching, and we did not want to advocate a particular doctrine or a specific view,” Wilhoit said.
It seems this kind of creative editing is spreading throughout the country.
In August, the Kansas Board of Education also garnered attention when it adopted new testing standards that play down the scientific importance of evolution.
Kentucky biology teacher Ken Rosenbaum said these types of decisions will discourage schools from covering the topic.
“A lot of teachers are upset about this,” said Rosenbaum, who is also director of the Kentucky Science Teachers Association. “They know it was done for political reasons. It’s either a scientific theory or it’s not. Why don’t we just stop calling the sunrise the sunrise?”
Would you accept if ID was taught as something other than science, perhaps an alternative literature or cultural course?
Could you please post or cite some evidence for either of these beliefs.
Assuming your double negative was unintentional, and not intended to be patently offensive, I would say yes. Moreover, the Jews are entirely right to be afraid.
I don't know. But I'd prefer to investigate using tools of rational inquiry, rather than attributing it to magic and thinking that I've learned something.
You can't, because there is no evidence for evolution and a big bang event.
Hilariously incorrect.
“Further, he (the Pope) seems to be cautioning those who have been claiming Church endorsement of the full-bodied, design-defeating version of Darwin's theory of evolution, which, after all, is often little more than philosophical materialism applied to science,” added Chapman.
Chapman noted that in his very first homily as Pope, Benedict XVI had rebuked the idea that human beings are mere products of evolution, and that, like his predecessor, John Paul II, the new Pope has a long record of opposition to scientific materialism.
excerpt from: http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=3015&program=News&callingPage=discoMainPage
"Just because some percentage, even a majority, of students want to hear "both sides of a controversial issue", it does not follow that both sides should be taught. Holocaust denial comes to mind."
That's a good argument for NOT teaching evo.
Thanx.
How do you figure? Both the Holocaust and evolution are accepted as historical facts by almost everyone who's in a position to know. Overwhelmingly, the people who raise questions about either are those with an ulterior agenda.
Do you really think that millions of scientists are conspiring to keep information contrary to evolution out of academia? There are hundreds of websites, books, community college classes, etc that could clarify these very naive claims for you but it seems that creationists aren't willing to do some simple unbiased research to learn more about why 99.999% of scientists agree about the Theory of Evolution. I don't think I could put it any better than you did:
"Do some honest research, and quit regurgitating old misproven theories and stories. The facts are available, and I hope people learn them for themselves."
I do have an ulterior agenda - my agenda is TRUTH.
I went to Catholic grade school, & high school; creationism was taught in Religion class, and in Comparative Religion class where we learned about several religions' beliefs.
Pretty much an endorsement to me!
Evolution was taught in Biology and Microbiology. What was your Catholic school experience?
How old is digression?
Both theories, Big Bang or Evolution, (which are almost always linked by today's scientists) have no basis in fact, evidence, or even sound reasoning. While this forum is not appropriate for the lengthy debate needed, here are some pages with links AND references.
Humans and Dinosaurs--Several sites have shown both human hand and foot prints fossilized in the same strata as dinosaur prints. How is that possible if they were seperated by millions of years of evolution? It's not possible. The tracks had to be made very close together in time. Take a look at the fossils at the Paluxy River fossils near Glen Rose Texas found in 1908 and fossils found in 1999 near Tuba City, Arizona. These are only 2 examples of many.
This site shows a teddy bear and a paper rose that went through the same process of petrification, not in years, but days.
http://www.creationtruthministries.org/pages/883912/index.htm
The earth is covered in geologic layers that scientist propose show the age of the earth. What they can't show is how these layers were formed. Here is a site that will explain the misconception the scientists accept as fact, and how these layers are actually sediment from a world wide flood.
http://www.rae.org/revev2.html
This site also talks about supposedly extinct animals are still living, specifically the coelacanth, the same animal in fossil records, NOT a new member of the family. If one can do it, others can too.
All I want to do is encourage people to study for themselves and not take blindly statements made by others as fact.
Simply amazing . . .
Argument without proof. It takes faith to believe in evolution. Sounds like a religion.
I freely state I have faith in my belief. Do you?
"Simply amazing . . ."
Yes, your ignorance is astounding.
"Argument without proof."
I never said I had proof. Unlike you, I DO have evidence though for evolution.
"It takes faith to believe in evolution. Sounds like a religion."
Another alleged Christian bashing religion.
"I freely state I have faith in my belief. Do you?"
I don't need faith. I have evidence.
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