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Court hears Balkans genocide case (Serbia will be the first nation to be charged with genocide)
bbc ^ | 27 February 2006

Posted on 02/27/2006 3:21:32 AM PST by paudio

The first trial of a state charged with genocide has opened in The Hague, where Bosnia-Hercegovina will accuse Serbia and Montenegro of war crimes. The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is hearing the case, which Bosnia first brought 13 years ago.

It says Belgrade was responsible for crimes of genocide on its territory during the early 1990s Bosnian war.

Belgrade denies its intention was to wipe out Muslims in eastern Bosnia and says there is no proof of the claims.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; appeasement; balkans; bosnia; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonsquagmire; icj; jihad; serbia; soros; sorosfluffers; thehague; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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To: tgambill

After coming back here, I was taken back at the lack of knowledge that my fellow Americans had of world events. "Forget conversation.......Some even asked me if we were still in Kosovo, where is Kosovo, etc..........."


Well, how many Kosovo citizens do you think are knowledgeable of world events and geography? Think they all know where Chicago is, or Atlanta? Or where some of the Latin American countries are? I suspect a larger percentage of Americans are somewhat knowledgeable of world events than are Kosovo citizens, don't you think? There's always room for improvement, but don't sell your American citizens short. Especially Freepers.


61 posted on 02/27/2006 10:20:24 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

Many of the ones you mentioned know better than most Americans. They are they ones making 1000X times more money than most Americans. A very large percentage of the Albanian Americans are mixed with the Albanian Mafia. The ones that are not, as a culture are nomads that are more aware of the politics of other countries than the citizens of that country know themselves.

No, Americans are lost.......most are more involved in their daily life, money, family, friends, super bowl, Being a silly Democrat or a hard corp Republican. They have the best of intentions, but no idea of world politics. This is not an time for ego or nationalistic gung ho, its a time of being realistic.

So, in response to your point, no, most Kosovars are more knowlegable than the average American. Using the key word......that is characteric of the forum culture...."Freeper", which is what I assume means a person that visits this site. Free Republic + Freeper, I assume.

I've been overseas the past 10 years. Yes, I will sell my American fellow citizens very very short on their lack of knowledge and caring about world politics, absolutely. They have no idea of the hoax of the Balkans that the Clinton administration weaved to justify the entrace into the Balkans. It was a total hoax and fabrication that 90% of Americans have no idea about. This is a fact......It's not their fault as they (Americans) live a protected life behind an awesome military might........I was in the Marines 12 years. I believe in war to protect our freedom. That freedom comes a price for protected......a separation to the ugly part of reality.

Most Kosovars know more about world events and geography than the average American can even begin to know.........a fact.


62 posted on 02/27/2006 10:37:45 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: flaglady47

:) by the way, the last post was written in a hurry and apparently one cannot correct mistakes on here.......it's late....

Tom


63 posted on 02/27/2006 10:40:48 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

Most Kosovars know more about world events and geography than the average American can even begin to know.........a fact.

A fact in your mind only. This statement is total b*llsh*t.


64 posted on 02/27/2006 10:41:53 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

Not really, I lived there for five years. I've lived in the U.S. most my life....I don't understand your reaction. It's not a matter of pride or ego, it's a matter of fact. The Albanian culture is one of Nomads. They know the culture and economical structure of most countries because that is their life to relocate, work, make money and send it back home. They know the politics....Americans are not like Europeans. Americans are isolationists.......it's a fact.....It bothers me too, but it's proven by the educational system, polls, and studies. Albanians are a different type of people. I assume that you have been in Europe and know the people then. And, of course you know about Albanians and their culture as you must have lived with them or among them.

So, assuming that you have this knowledge you met some that are exceptions. When were you there by the way, just curious?


65 posted on 02/27/2006 10:57:29 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Banat

The reality is the Albanian extremist are the instigators and if they get independence will continue the fight in South Presevo and Western Macedonia.

The Muslims were the ones creating the most problems in Bosnia and Croatia. Many of the Massacres, ie Srebrenica and Racak were greatly exaggerated.....and fabricated.

The Serb attrocities were committed by paramilitarities as did the KLA murdered most all residents of villages to include the animals......Mass graves are the biggest hoax of all...........Some did exist, but the actual perps is the big question.


66 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:07 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: flaglady47

Most Kosovars know more about world events and geography than the average American can even begin to know.........a fact.

A fact in your mind only. This statement is total b*llsh*t.




Side note...what observation do you base this on, so that you may educate me? I'm open.

Also, this has nothing to do with the the ones here on Freerepublic....maybe a few, but how many of these "educated" Americans actually know that FreeRepublic actually exists. That is why I like to read the posts. Those Americans that are in the know, post here......(with some exceptions of course)


67 posted on 02/27/2006 11:16:12 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: markomalley

Mark, the Helsinki agreement did not only apply to outside aggression but the active destabilization of states. The quick recognition of Slovenia and Croatia was an act designed to destabilize Yugoslavia and encouraged civil war and this was a civil war regardless of the internationalization that took place with recognition.


68 posted on 02/28/2006 2:28:02 AM PST by JMS
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To: Banat

Could it be that those countries (Germany & Britain, primarily) did not recognize the legitimacy of Yugoslavia to begin with (after all, it was not a single country until the 20th Century)?


69 posted on 02/28/2006 3:03:19 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: JMS

I would agree that those two were the first dominoes. Again, you may well be right. Yugoslavia was, after all, a relatively new entity: each of the Federated republics was its own entity prior to the 20th Century.


70 posted on 02/28/2006 3:05:53 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: ma bell
Gee, Ma Bell, Radio Yugoslavia broadcast in English as well as Serbian. I believe the frequency was 7180 kHz at 0100 UTC.

Some of the pro-Serbian posters have implied that I am either an Albanian or a Muslim. I consider this sort of implication at best ignorance caused by passion or slander at the worst.

By the way, in 1999 the Yankees swept the Braves 4 games to none.
71 posted on 02/28/2006 3:51:01 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: F-117A

I'm sure you are aware that Weasley was involved in our standdown in the Rwanda matter as well.


72 posted on 02/28/2006 4:31:26 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend

Didn't know that!

What a sorry excuse for a human being!


73 posted on 02/28/2006 5:02:45 AM PST by F-117A
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To: F-117A
I remember reading that he was rushing our troops out of the area out of harms' way.

Read about it here on FR but am hopelessly inept at searching out articles.

74 posted on 02/28/2006 5:06:22 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
I remember reading that he was rushing our troops out of the area out of harms' way.

Read about it here on FR but am hopelessly inept at searching out articles.


I was in the 5th Combat Comm at the time. We were working the remnants of Somalia at the time and had to participate in the evacuations of folks out of Rwanda.

Shameful and humiliating...what the so-called leaders in the day did by giving hope and then deciding it was too tough.

75 posted on 02/28/2006 5:10:46 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley
Could it be that those countries (Germany & Britain, primarily) did not recognize the legitimacy of Yugoslavia to begin with (after all, it was not a single country until the 20th Century)?

Britain, France and the U.S. were behind the 1st Yugoslavia (1918-1941), as well as the second (1945-1991). Prime Minister Pashich (Serbia) was against the creation of Yugoslavia, advocating a separate Kingdom of Serbia, instead (Serbia and Montenegro had already been independent Serbian monarchies since for 40 years. Pashich did not want anything to do with Croats and/or Slovenes). As for Germany, it's a completely different story. They were against Yugoslavia all along, but mostly because of the hatred they had for the Serbs for kicking their a$$ in two world wars.

76 posted on 02/28/2006 5:27:51 AM PST by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ)
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To: markomalley
First.....thank you for your service.

This weekend I heard President Ford's son speaking on CSPAN.

He said that it was the media influence that resulted in the Rwanda disaster.

He stated that the media promoting the pictures of the Rangers being dragged thru the streets of Mogadishu caused the American people to demand we immediately pull out of Somalia.....which X42 did.

Rwanda followed and the administration was afraid that the American people would not support any involvement by our troops.

This was Ford's son's assessment of the harm that the media can do with what they choose to focus on.

77 posted on 02/28/2006 6:02:43 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: markomalley
"As I said, there may, genetically, be little or no difference, but the cultures are, for whatever reason, different."

So what are those cultural differences?

"Have you had an opportunity to document the Slovenian aggression you spoke of earlier? Thanks."

Don't you remember the Slovenian militia attack on JNA barracks?

78 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:27 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: flaglady47
"Well, how many Kosovo citizens do you think are knowledgeable of world events and geography? Think they all know where Chicago is, or Atlanta? Or where some of the Latin American countries are? I suspect a larger percentage of Americans are somewhat knowledgeable of world events than are Kosovo citizens, don't you think?"

Europeans are generally more knowledgeable in the area of geography.

79 posted on 02/28/2006 7:32:45 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: flaglady47
"This statement is total b*llsh*t."

Prove it.

80 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:43 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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