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Writing Europe's Obituary
The Brussels Journal ^ | 2/22/06 | Paul Belian

Posted on 02/23/2006 11:40:15 AM PST by Wombat101

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To: TXBSAFH
BS.

Europe started dying when Europeans (both Jewish and otherwise) began to accept the ideas that led to the murder of so many Jews. While the Nazi's are dead and communists largely rejected, those same ideas still are the mainstream of European politics and taken for granted by most Jews on both sides of the Atlantic. Those ideas put the state as the supreme authority and provider, remove consequences from individuals, insist that truth is relative, promote a materialistic ethic and undermine Judaio-Christian morality.
41 posted on 02/23/2006 1:14:41 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: BW2221
With the forced abortions and family size limitations, China's population is not increasing.

It is still increasing, but at a much lower rate.

42 posted on 02/23/2006 2:29:11 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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To: Wombat101
How much greener is the grass, isn't it. I wouldn't be writing Europe's obituary just as yet. Europe is waking up, while we, our leaders, continue to babble about religion of peace. The elites over there are hopeless as they are over here, but the masses, the football hooligans, the skinheads, the salt of the earth will start kicking ass, sooner or later, wait and see (and will be reported here as 'racist neo-nazis'.)


43 posted on 02/23/2006 2:36:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: RKV
Who ever said secular China does NOT believe in their future? Materialism is only now being experienced in prosperity, so they are still under the illusion. Give them 30 years (or less) for the disillusionment to take place...if a war does not occur before then.

China is, by the way, seeing its RATE of population increase falling dramatically. The majority of males in the coming generation (since females are often aborted) as is the case more dramatically in India, is also a very bad sign....look for war.

44 posted on 02/23/2006 5:45:33 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: OkieDokie1000

At least the parts that we like. That probably has a lot to do with how things change.


45 posted on 02/23/2006 6:53:03 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Wombat101

important read -- "When Nations Die: Ten Warning Signs of a Culture in Crisis"


46 posted on 02/23/2006 7:49:26 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: RKV

Read the newspaper: Communists who engage in rampant Capitalism are no longer Communists.


47 posted on 02/24/2006 6:25:07 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Flying Circus

Guess again. Jews were being killed in great numbers since the Middle Ages. Poroms occured as a matter of course before almost every Crusade. The Reconquest of Spain had it's "convert of die" period. Every European country records pogroms in their history every other decade or so. The only difference is that Nazi Germany applied the process of industrialization to the task. Nor were Jews the only ethinc minority killed in the Holocaust. The list also included political dissidents of all stripes and ethnicities, Serbs, gypsies, homosexuals, and anyone considerd "intelligencia" (i.e. anyone politically or philosophically opposed to the Nazi State).

The Soviet Union killed as many (if not more) of it's own citizens than Hitler did. The Soviets also killed more Poles, Ukrainians, Hanseatic Germans, Armenians, Hungarians, Moldavans and Finns, for example,than the Germans ever did.

Mass murder in Europe was not something ushered in during the 1940's.


48 posted on 02/24/2006 6:33:47 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Revolting cat!

When you talk about the Neo-Nazi, Blackshirts and SKinhead movements in Europe, ask yourself this question: Would you entrust the future of your civilization to what, for all intents and purposes, are street gangs? And street gangs motivated, mostly, by their own disillusionment and disaffection?

That's how Mussolini and Hitler got started, you know.

For what it's worth, I'd still trust the Bobby on the Street, the Guardia Civil in the airport and the Carabinieri in front of the Colluseum waaayyy before I'd trust a guy who lives to throw bottles and riot at a football game.


49 posted on 02/24/2006 6:40:58 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101

You are arguing with yourself. It's not whom we oughta trust, it's who we think is going to respond forcefully to the clear and present danger of Islamism -- the sensitivity trained Bobbys, or the hooligans and the lower class natives. We shall wait and see.


50 posted on 02/24/2006 8:54:54 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Revolting cat!

Arguing with myself? Hardly. You missed the point -- The Bobbies may be "sensitive" but they are the leaglly-established, taxpayer-supported first line of defense. They are creations of the Western Democratic state, and as such, an expression of the majority of the democratic people of the UK.

So are the amries, intelligence agencies and governments of the European Continet. They are "the will of the people".

What you envision is a mass-movement of disorganized, undeputized, extra-legal mobs motivated not by the desire to create a more-civilized environment; they are sociopaths.

If you want your country righted, I fairly doubt you'd enlist or sanction the services of such folks. That would be like turning all law enforcement and military operations in this country over to the Klan. They might fix the immediate problem through violence and counter-terror, but what do they leave in it's place?


51 posted on 02/24/2006 9:03:20 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101

I have been saying for a long time that Europe is probably doomed, and the reasons are not hard to see.


52 posted on 02/24/2006 9:07:57 AM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: alarm rider

Europe can be saved, but it will take an effort that most Europeans feel uncomfortable making because it means sacrifice.

Either Europe gives up it's four-week-vacation-reire-at-45-with-gov't-subsidized-maid-service mentality or it will go the way of Constantinople. What's at stake is the very survival of Western Culture.

Europeans need to be reminded of what they have and what they will lose if they don't do the following things;

1. Demand and defend civil society
2. Reject the "philosophies" of a legion of very bad French and German thinkers which preach cultural suicide and nihilism
3. Remember that rights are granted by God, and preserved by people willing to die for them
4. Stop the economic rot in their societies caused by excessive government intrusion into every aspect of operations and hiring practices
5. Demand that Muslims either agree to be part of a civil society based upon laws and common custom or they leave. If need be, forcibly.
6. Dismantle the gigantic welfare state which is a leftover defense mechanism against communism
7. Disband the EU; anything that has both France and Germany in bed together does not bode well for anyone.
8. Find some way to make the institutions of Western Civilization (the church, the army, the 'core' academy (i.e. non-liberal arts subjects)) more attractive options for their young people
9. Stop importing "taxpayers" for the sake of propping up welfare systems, and simultaneously believing that those imports don't need to, or can be, assimilated.
10. Stop the petty bickering with the US over issues that basically devolve into matters over "prestige" and public relations ,and recall the historical common cause between the continents..

Until recently, I was a big believer that NATO should be abolished since there was no longer a Soviet threat. But now I'm not quite so sure: someone is going to have to fight for Europe, and once again, it just might have to be Americans.


53 posted on 02/24/2006 9:27:45 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101

Excellent Wombat.

I also believe that if the stuff hits the fan in Europe, and if there is not mass, instant surrender, the US will again have to try to save them. Truthfully, I do not think that any more American blood should be shed for Europe. I know that there are those that would say that it would be in our own interests, but look at what has happened to Europe. Perhaps they should try to save themselves, then perhaps freedom would mean more to them than it does now.


54 posted on 02/24/2006 10:54:37 AM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: Cacique

bump


55 posted on 02/24/2006 7:37:52 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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