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Egypt Ruler Moved To Pull Down Cheops Pyramid For Noble Reasons
Makfax ^ | 2-19-2006

Posted on 02/19/2006 4:27:58 PM PST by blam

Egypt ruler moved to pull down Cheops Pyramid of noble motives

Cairo, 13:30

An Albanian with Macedonian origin, Muhammad Ali Pasha, ruler of Egypt, Syria and Arabia in 19th century, had ordered his French engineer Linan to pull down the Cheops Pyramid.

The Great Pyramid of Cheops had been rescued with two piastres, the then Egyptian currency.

This information was documented in archive paperwork kept in Revolution Museum depots. Media in Egypt cited extracts of these documents.

According to documents, the then Egypt ruler Muhammad Ali wanted to remove stone blocks from their pyramid in order to build a dam on the Nile River.

French engineer Linan along with the then French consul in Cairo, were well aware of the historic value of the pyramid and they told the pasha of Egypt that pyramid's stones are four times bigger than the ones needed for dam construction.

Linan had finally managed to convince the pasha that his project was not worthwhile as the expenses for transport of one cubic meter of construction material would be higher (two piastres) comparing with the stones transported from Shalkan stone-pit.

The Great Pyramid of Khufu (Cheops) is one of the largest structures built by man even today, 4,500 years later. It is estimate that 2.3 million blocks averaging 2.5 tons a piece were used in the building the pyramid. Weight of the block ranged from 2 to 15 tons.
The pyramid sits on 13.5 acres of land and is a height of 480 feet. The length of its sides totals 756 feet. It is estimated to have taken 100,000 men over 25 years to build the pyramid. /end/


TOPICS: Egypt; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albania; ancientegypt; arabia; canalofjoseph; cheops; down; egypt; giza; godsgravesglyphs; greatpyramid; macedonia; motives; muhammadalipasha; noble; pull; pyramid; pyramids; ruler; syria
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; balch3

It's true, Joseph lived hundreds of years later. A canal built to irrigate areas west of the Nile (and ultimately, to feed Lake Fayyum) still bears Joseph's name; he was in Egypt during the Middle Kingdom, and the MK pharaohs built a lot of stuff near the end of the canal.


21 posted on 02/19/2006 8:03:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's a big planet. We're willing to share. They're not. Out they go.)
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To: blam
the then Egypt ruler Muhammad Ali wanted to remove stone blocks from their pyramid in order to build a dam on the Nile River.

Ah, but we have so much to learn from the calm, patient wisdom of our Islamic brethren.

22 posted on 02/19/2006 8:03:57 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: digger48
I helped one of my kids do a project on the Cheops Pyramid. Amazing structure and even more amazing human feat.

Amazing that it held the record for the tallest man-made structure from 2580 BC until the Eiffel Tower was built in 1889 AD.

23 posted on 02/19/2006 8:10:58 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

You could still climb on the pyramids in the 1960's. Not sure when they banned it, but you can't do it now.
Well you can for a LOT of money. :)


24 posted on 02/19/2006 8:21:18 PM PST by Graymatter (Yes and...what are we going to do about it?)
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To: SunkenCiv
The "no slaves in ancient Egypt" line is a load of manure from the state propaganda apparatus. There was no choice in the matter, and that compulsion is the basis for the idea that the pyramids were erected by slave labor.

And your proof would be.....?

Actually, the whole idea that the pyramids were built with huge gangs of slaves yanking on ropes, and that they didn't have the wheel, or a simple lever-operated elevator, blah blah blah, is the big load of manure. The ancient Egyptians drilled holes in solid granite with helical tool marks that indicate a rate of advance of the drill (1:60) that is many times faster than modern machinery. To think these same people would employ forced gangs of slaves numbering in the hundreds of thousands (and the logistical and enforcement nightmare that goes with it) is amusing, to say the least.

25 posted on 02/19/2006 8:40:40 PM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: blam
the then Egypt ruler Muhammad Ali wanted to remove stone blocks from their pyramid

But back then he was still known as Cassius Clay.

26 posted on 02/19/2006 8:52:55 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
The pyramids were not built by slaves. They were built by farmers in the off-season.

Farmers doing the work that slaves wouldn't do?

27 posted on 02/19/2006 9:01:41 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: blam
Egypt ruler moved to pull down Cheops Pyramid

Impossible. Zahi Hawass was not informed.


28 posted on 02/19/2006 9:07:02 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Farmers doing the work that slaves wouldn't do?

skilled workmen doing the work that others couldn't do.

29 posted on 02/19/2006 9:10:15 PM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
And your proof would be.....?
Right back at ya.
The pyramids were not built by slaves. They were built by farmers in the off-season.
None. No proof. None at all. Nothing exists that could qualify as proof. It's just Zahi "Zowie" Hawass' propaganda.
Actually, the whole idea that the pyramids were built with huge gangs of slaves yanking on ropes, and that they didn't have the wheel, or a simple lever-operated elevator, blah blah blah, is the big load of manure
And I brought this up, where? Oh, I know, nowhere. That's just you trying to damn me by association.
The ancient Egyptians drilled holes in solid granite with helical tool marks that indicate a rate of advance of the drill (1:60) that is many times faster than modern machinery.
And your proof would be.....?
To think these same people would employ forced gangs of slaves numbering in the hundreds of thousands (and the logistical and enforcement nightmare that goes with it) is amusing, to say the least.
Yeah, I can see your point -- hundreds of thousands of people the length of ancient Egypt, laboring away, anonymously, while an absolute monarch aggrandizes himself (or herself) using the entire state apparatus to assure control of the grain supply... why would there be gangs of slaves? How amusing.
30 posted on 02/19/2006 9:16:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's a big planet. We're willing to share. They're not. Out they go.)
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head

I'm not sure how much skill is required to tug on roped 3000 pound rocks for 8 or 10 hours every day, but you could be right...or not.


31 posted on 02/19/2006 9:49:45 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head

Sorry, roped 5000 pound rocks...


32 posted on 02/19/2006 9:50:39 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

"The other day I got on an elevator and this old guy got in with me.

I was over near the button. I pushed number four and I said 'Where you going?'

He said 'Phoenix.'

So I pushed 'Phoenix'.

Doors opened, two tumbleweeds blew in. We stepped off; we were in downtown Phoenix.

I said 'You know, you're a kind of guy I really like to hang out with.'

He said 'Well, I'm going out the desert, you wanna go?'

I said sure... so we hopped in his car and started driving out to the desert.

He told me he spent most of his life working on a research project for the government trying to find out who financed the pyramids. he worked on it 30 years and they paid him an incredible amount of money... he told them he was pretty sure it was a guy named Eddie..."


33 posted on 02/19/2006 9:56:59 PM PST by decal (Whoever said you can't fool all the people all the time has never visited DU...)
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To: SunkenCiv
The "no slaves in ancient Egypt" line is a load of manure from the state propaganda apparatus. There was no choice in the matter, and that compulsion is the basis for the idea that the pyramids were erected by slave labor.

Compulsion? Sure.

It was a civic/religious duty to continue the cycle of Life-Pharaoh-Egypt. Entire villages would be conscripted when they were idled by the Nile flood to work on the construction.
By comparison, in medieval times the commoners and the yeomanry would be called temporarily for the King's service. But you wouldn't call them slaves anymore then you'd call the present German or Israeli military conscripts a slave.

34 posted on 02/19/2006 9:57:22 PM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: SunkenCiv

EVEN if it was made by non-enslaved people, doesnt mean that they had a lot to say about building it..

I can imagine when a Pharao tells people to come help built it would not be a good idea to flip him the finger.


35 posted on 02/20/2006 6:14:59 AM PST by S0122017
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To: decal

Thanks for the entertaining post :)


36 posted on 02/20/2006 12:22:28 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: S0122017

Well put.


37 posted on 02/20/2006 6:07:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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Grab your tinfoil hat whenever you want to visit Zahi's cuckoo fantasyland version of ancient Egypt:
Great Pyramid's Stones Counted
by Jennifer Viegas
Discovery News
December 2002
A new study conducted by the Supreme Council for Antiquities in Egypt has determined that the Great Pyramid of Khufu at Giza consists of one million limestone rocks.

The number is under half of the previously estimated amount of 2.3 million stones, indicating that the Egyptian pyramid builders were even more organized and efficient than previously thought.

Zahi Hawass, secretary general of the Supreme Council, said that the Great Pyramid was considered to be a national project that all Egyptians took part in, according to an Egyptian State Information Service report last week. The report also mentioned that Hawass and his team analyzed the administrative organization and work scheme used in the construction of the 450-foot tall monument.
In the Fall 2002 issue of KMT Anthony P. Sakovich showed his systematic approach to estimating the number of stones (some larger, some smaller) in the Khufu pyramid, arrived at a figure of 4 million, and Zahi's response was to say that Khufu's consisted of perhaps one million stones, and each was, on average, less than 2 tons each.
38 posted on 03/17/2006 9:31:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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39 posted on 05/25/2014 9:49:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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This topic was posted 2/19/2006, thanks blam.

40 posted on 08/25/2024 6:28:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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