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Free Republic Poll: Who is your favorite Republican for President in 2008?
FR Poll ^

Posted on 02/14/2006 12:01:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Who is your favorite Republican for President in 2008?

George Allen

Bill Frist

Newt Gingrich

Rudy Giuliani

John McCain

Mike Pence

Condoleezza Rice

Rick Santorum

Tom Tancredo

Undecided/Other


TOPICS: Announcements; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; poll
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To: Badray

Badray you are attacked because you advocate handing a victory to Hillary on a silver platter.

Did you think about how replacing a 95% ACU conservative with a liberal Democrat is the worst thing that could happen to conservatives in PA and USA???

Santorum is the #1 target of liberal special interest groups, for doing consrevative stuff like challenging the imperial courts, supporting tax cuts and private accounts for social security, being prolife and stuff like this:

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=6041

Here's how the liberals call it:
http://www.butlereagle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050811/EDITORIAL02/508110311/-1/Editorial02
He has steadfastly opposed a woman's right to choose and embryonic stem cell research funding, and supported the prolonging of Terri Schiavo's sub-human life.

santorum is the ONLY CONSERVATIVE elected to statewide office in PA's recent history:
http://www.fandm.edu/x4482.xml
"Other than Rick Santorum, not a single conservative has been elected Governor or Senator in modern history. Nevertheless, Santorum was elected in 1994 and re-elected in 2000, and he's a bona fide conservative"

Let's see - the only conservative yet conservatives dont want to support him ...
Maybe he is running to the middle because of conservatives like you abandoning him when he needs you most, did you think about that?


Meanwhile, you want Casey Jr to win ... check the blog-post that explains how Casey Jr thinks tax cuts cause - higher interest rates ... Jeez:
http://www.santorumblog.com/


621 posted on 02/16/2006 11:09:15 AM PST by WOSG
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To: WOSG
Thanks...

No blood, no foul.

Appreciate your point of view and agree with much of it...

Best FRegards,

622 posted on 02/16/2006 11:12:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (We term limit the POTUS.........Why don't we term limit both houses?)
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To: Tokra

"The only ones who would have a problem with her are the closet racists and closet sexists who would not want to see a black woman in the White House."

What a bunch of baloney. This is the kind of cr*p we will have to fend off if and when Hillary runs, dont play into it. The ones *touting* Condi are doing it out a patronizing view of how neat it would be to have a black female GOP candidate. Great, a tokenism candidate. I am ignoring that and asking the more serious question of what views and policies will they push as President. I dont care that Hillary is a woman - I know she is a socialist and I will pick the male/female conservative over the male/female socialist any time. You dont know where Condi is on the issues and so to even advocate her is an act of shallowness.

Proof that this is tokenism: Imagine a white, male secty of State with the features and viewpoints of Condi ... would you be touting such a candidate? Do you want Brent Scowcrow for President? Think he is best for President? Why? Why not?

Condi's a black female protoge of Brent scowcroft, so tell me why she is better or more special as President than real politicians and conservatives like Rudy, Newt, George Allen or Mike Pence. Part of the reason Condi is wrong is that even her foreign policy perspective is IMHO not right for the GWOT. If you *pay attention* to her comments on the mid-east they are Scowcroft-like --- IMHO just plain wrong, way too "Arabist" for what we need in the GWOT. If she can get Iran to give up nukes, I might change my mind, but I dont see that happening - expect no miracles.


623 posted on 02/16/2006 11:24:13 AM PST by WOSG
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To: Republican Wildcat

LOL

What a load of crap.

You always start with the insults and ignore the FACTS that I post. You never address any of them. I report on recorded votes and recorded speeches.

Now stop this holier than thou BS and deal with the charges that I have made about Santorum. If you don't address them, we have nothing further to say to each other. You know the charges that I've made so don't pretend that you don't.


624 posted on 02/16/2006 11:26:28 AM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board is as deadly as a gun.)
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To: GrandEagle

Anyone opposed to "Globalism" would be as electable as those caught up opposition to any other mythological beast.

Just how ridiculous such beliefs are is well illustrated by your claim that Bush is a "Globalist."


625 posted on 02/16/2006 11:29:41 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Some Freepers have yet to figure out that the point is to WIN not just make a point.

And some FReepers concentrate only on winning as if principle didn't matter.

Not that your preferred candidates have a chance, but if we wanted Democrats, we'd vote for Democrats who are at least honest enough to wear the "D", not RINOs.

626 posted on 02/16/2006 11:43:36 AM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board is as deadly as a gun.)
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To: WOSG

If you believe Condi is "soft" you must be looking at a different person than our Sec of State.


627 posted on 02/16/2006 11:51:53 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Jim Robinson

McCain all the way. A sure winner and a refeshing change.


628 posted on 02/16/2006 11:56:32 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: One Proud Dad

There is no way a far rightist will win election. Did the last two elections not clearly show that the far Right does not elect presidents. Bush was the far to the right of any candidate in the last 40 yrs including Reagan and he barely won. NO ONE further right will have a chance.

Americans simply are not so conservative that a Pence, Tancredo, would have a chance.


629 posted on 02/16/2006 11:56:49 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: WOSG

Well, I see that you are not only rude (apologetically so)to other posters, but that you don't think it necessary to uphold principle. Why, when the Dems are imploding, do you think that we should emulate them. This is the time to distinquish ourselves from the Democrats in word and in deed.

Yes, I criticize Republicans -- for acting like Democrats. If you don't like that, it seems that you are the one who is challenged, not me. When a pubbie is wrong, I will point it out. When he is consistently wrong, I won't vote for him regardless of the opponent. I won't reward them by reelecting them.

To follow your prescription is to continue the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting something different. No thanks.


630 posted on 02/16/2006 12:04:58 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board is as deadly as a gun.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Recognition that the goal of politics is to win would be a start. We need a president who will make national defense the primary goal. Everything else is compromisable.

Only in dictatorships can you ignore what 60-70% of the people believe. Voting in a national election to make a point is foolish.

All of these candidates are good people and patriots and all are far superior to any RAT. Expecting perfection in a candidate is beyond silly.


631 posted on 02/16/2006 12:06:51 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: ridesthemiles

You could have saved all that typing by just admitting that you would trade essential liberty for a little temporary security.


632 posted on 02/16/2006 12:08:03 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board is as deadly as a gun.)
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To: eleni121

Brownback has no chance barring a miracle. Not only is he not well known enough but faces the "No Senator" Rule.


633 posted on 02/16/2006 12:09:31 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: ridesthemiles

FAcing the Terrorists is the most important task. Anything else can be compromised (that does not mean surrender.)


634 posted on 02/16/2006 12:13:07 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: WOSG
The ones *touting* Condi are doing it out a patronizing view of how neat it would be to have a black female GOP candidate. Great, a tokenism candidate. I am ignoring that and asking the more serious question of what views and policies will they push as President. I dont care that Hillary is a woman - I know she is a socialist and I will pick the male/female conservative over the male/female socialist any time. You dont know where Condi is on the issues and so to even advocate her is an act of shallowness.

A "token" candidate? Where on earth does that come from?

If you want to know where Condi's views are - it's easy enough to find out. The woman has written several books and numerous articles. She has more foreign affairs experience than any of these Republican Governors - who have NONE!

I suggest you take a look at her biography and look at her resume. It's quite impressive and VERY heavy on foreign affairs.

Where do you come off saying that I "don't know where she is on the issues?" She has certainly given enough speeches and written enough to give a very clear idea of her views. What is "shallow" about that?

You claim that Condi is too "Arabist" to do any good with the War on Terror! Condi - "Iran and Syria have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this (Danish cartoons) to their own purposes - and the world ought to call them on it."

That doesn't sound very "arabist" to me!

I suggest you go to the website "Rice2008.com" and read through some of her interviews. If you still don't know what her views are - then you're not paying attention.

The litmus test for who would make a good President should not be where do they stand on abortion - but where do they stand on protecting our nation from terrorism. I believe Dr. Rice has made her intentions quite clear in that area.

My choice of Condi has nothing to do with race or sex. It has everything to do with:

a) who is strong enough to protect this country.

b) who can actually win an election.

Those too far on the right will never win the votes of the great "undecided". Condi could win those votes.

635 posted on 02/16/2006 12:14:55 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Courdeleon02

McCAIN is the only sure winner who can save this country from Clinton and Clinton

If Republicans nominate anyone else they are idiots and they will be crying the blues for 8 long years under the Hillary regime.

McCain McCain McCain McCain McCain McCain McCain McCain


636 posted on 02/16/2006 12:19:24 PM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: WOSG

Wah wah wah.

Santorum dug his own grave and dared conservatives to push him in. Don't blame me for pointing out what he's doing wrong. Tell him to stop doing the wrong things.

Tell him to stop supporting:

A hike in the minimum wage
A hike in the SS tax base
Law Of The Sea Treaty (LOST)
Mandatory gun locks with each arms purchase
The opposition to more security on the borders
Spending like a drunken sailor and bragging about it on his campaign web site
Liberal pro abortion candidates

Answer me this. If you bring your wife flowers and gifts all the time, chances are that people would think that you are a pretty good husband, right?

What if it turns out that the flowers and gifts always follow episodes of spousal abuse and / or cheating on her?

Would you still be a good husband? NO FREAKING WAY! should be your answer.

Well, Ricky is the cheating and abusive husband. He is seen as (and the Dems are happy to demonize him as evil incarnate) Mr Conservative, but the truth of the matter is that you are only seeing the flowers and gifts, not the cheating or the abuse that I've listed above.

Just his support of Arlen over Toomey negated his wonderful voting record. He has supported other pro abortion RINO candidates.

In that last election, Santorum revealed that his personal ambitions were more important than the issues that you and I both see as important. When he had the chance to advance conservatism, he chose political expediency.

Rick is NOT the conservative that you think.


637 posted on 02/16/2006 12:21:16 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board is as deadly as a gun.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I am pragmatic as well, but in the media age so called "miracles" do happen.

http://www.winfieldcourier.com/dave/d050427.html


638 posted on 02/16/2006 12:21:56 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Badray

Anyone meeting your standards MIGHT get 5% of the vote. There is a big difference in standing up for principles and acting like a spoiled child.


639 posted on 02/16/2006 12:22:04 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Just how ridiculous such beliefs are is well illustrated by your claim that Bush is a "Globalist."
LOL! Thanks for the chuckle!
I'll have to admit, while there may be others with their head in the sand, you are the first who has ever even remotely insinuated that he is not!
Most discussions just revolve around to what extent he is.

LOL!!! Thanks again,

GE
640 posted on 02/16/2006 12:22:38 PM PST by GrandEagle
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