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1 posted on 02/13/2006 11:02:24 AM PST by nickcarraway
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Wonder if the same applies to selling a video tape I recorded an HBO movie on and then sell it in a garage sale?


2 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:15 AM PST by Bommer (Ted Kennedy - Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life!)
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To: nickcarraway

They'll have to pry my IPOD from my cold dead hands.


3 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:19 AM PST by sono (Ted Kennedy's naming his dog Splash is like Jack Abramoff naming his dog Bribe.)
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How would the RIAA even know who the original owner of the i-pod was?


4 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:45 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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It's stuff like this that will force a complete re-think of intellectual property rights. You can't set up an infinite series of hoops and then expect customers to jump through them all. When it is too hard to adhere to the law, people cease to try.


5 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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BULL.. If I buy music legally.. I can sell that music to another person... just like I can sell my CD's or Tapes WITH my stereo... RIAA can kiss my butt.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 11:05:48 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Who in REAL LIFE is going to do this?


7 posted on 02/13/2006 11:05:50 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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The only way around the problem is to either erase the iPod, or make sure it ships with only copies of the music - downloads if that's how they were obtained, or the original physical media. And don't keep copies yourself.

And they expect us to remember which of the 5,000+ songs we burned versus downloaded years after the fact?
8 posted on 02/13/2006 11:06:48 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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10 posted on 02/13/2006 11:07:27 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Maybe the RIAA should do something about Payola. Or those contract that turn musicians into indentured servants to the major labels.


12 posted on 02/13/2006 11:07:41 AM PST by D-Chivas
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Recording Industry Ass. of America

They forgot "hole".

14 posted on 02/13/2006 11:09:10 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Hollywood is like granola. It's composed of fruits and nuts and what's not are flakes.)
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Come enforce it with all the $$$ that entails to chase down every single iPod, MP3 player, and computer owner.

Here's one for you... I crash my hard drive so I can no longer read the data. I buy a new one and restore my MP3 files from whatever backup I may have. Now someone else obtains my failed hard drive and uses a recovery tool to extract the information.

Now what?


15 posted on 02/13/2006 11:09:14 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Hey Muslims - time to stop the MuhamMadness.)
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ping


20 posted on 02/13/2006 11:10:42 AM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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iPod
Send FReepmail if you want on/off iPing list
WARNING: This is a high-volume Ping list. Turn your headphones down
The List of Ping Lists

28 posted on 02/13/2006 11:15:45 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Better yet, don't buy an iPOD. If 1 Gig is enough, but an RCA Lyra. Their 1 Gig version is around $125 and comes with a FM transmitter for the car. Also, you don't need to mess with iTunes just to put music on it. It works just like a flash drive....plug-n-play.


31 posted on 02/13/2006 11:17:26 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Only 4 out of 3 Democrats actually vote.")
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Since when does the RIAA presume to dictate about the general public about the use of their private property?


32 posted on 02/13/2006 11:17:48 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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Wipe your iPod before selling it and get your smelly finger scent off of it.
35 posted on 02/13/2006 11:18:41 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Oddly enough, I don't think I've ever heard software companies claiming that you're a criminal if you don't wipe your entire hard drive clean before selling your computer to someone else.

I'm all for recording artists making the money that they deserve, but the arrogance of the RIAA is just too much to take at times.

38 posted on 02/13/2006 11:19:19 AM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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The RIAA can wipe my butt.


43 posted on 02/13/2006 11:21:18 AM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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Agree in general. It is illegal and immoral to buy a bunch of CDs, load them onto several iPods, then sell the iPods for a premium. That violates even the original spirit of the Copyright Clause, not just the warped version we have today.

However, the RIAA lawyer ignores the legally established rights of a secondary market in copyrighted goods. As long as that song has left your possession during a sale, the RIAA has absolutely zero, zilch, nada say in it through the Doctrine of First Sale. Well, at least that's how First Sale should be applied -- who knows how their lobbyists and lawyers are twisting it.

47 posted on 02/13/2006 11:22:49 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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RIAA - Really Ignorant Aged A**holes?

Ok, sales are down. Idol beats the Grammys.
Could it be that the product is bad, and that they're alienating the exact people they want to sell to?

Naaaaaaw. It's just they haven't gotten tough enough on their customer base.

Sheesh. These idiots must have gone to the same business schools as the execs at Ford and GM!


51 posted on 02/13/2006 11:24:47 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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