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To: nickcarraway

BULL.. If I buy music legally.. I can sell that music to another person... just like I can sell my CD's or Tapes WITH my stereo... RIAA can kiss my butt.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 11:05:48 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
BULL.. If I buy music legally.. I can sell that music to another person... just like I can sell my CD's or Tapes WITH my stereo... RIAA can kiss my butt.

So you're saying you'll think about it.

9 posted on 02/13/2006 11:07:03 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: HamiltonJay
BULL.. If I buy music legally.. I can sell that music to another person... just like I can sell my CD's or Tapes WITH my stereo... RIAA can kiss my butt.

When you buy a CD or purchase an MP3 download, you are not buying the actual music - you are licensing the private use rights of a copyrighted work. If you truly want to buy the music itself, you have to buy the copyright catalog. Then you can do whatever you want with it.

23 posted on 02/13/2006 11:12:51 AM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: HamiltonJay

nope. when you sell your CD to someone, you are selling what is (presumably) your only copy of it, and the right to use it passes to the buyer. when you sell an IPOD, your songs are still stored in ITunes and can be loaded onto your new Ipod - so you have essentially sold a copy of those songs to someone on your old Ipod.


24 posted on 02/13/2006 11:13:30 AM PST by oceanview
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To: HamiltonJay
It's not a problem if you wipe your original music files from your computer, so that the only original files are with the iPod. However, if you load an iPod with songs, then sell it, while keeping the originals, yeah, it's a copyright infringement.

There was a scam a while back where computer manufacturers would buy one copy of Windows and install it on every machine they sold. People thought they were getting a legal copy of Windows, but they weren't. Some manufacturers were even loading up with Office, Photoshop, etc., so that the value of the pirated software was greater than that of the computer.

I don't like RIAA, but they've got a point, here.

26 posted on 02/13/2006 11:14:40 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: HamiltonJay

Do you REALLY believe that??


59 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:33 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: HamiltonJay

If you pay to download music, apparently, you're OK. If you make copies of CD's or LP's and put on your IPOD, you have to erase them when you sell the IPOD or sell them with the IPOD.

Same reason you can't make and sell all the copies you like of some CD you got for Christmas.


126 posted on 02/13/2006 12:23:33 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: HamiltonJay
" If I buy music legally.. I can sell that music to another person... just like I can sell my CD's or Tapes WITH my stereo... "

Sure you can sell your CD's. Just like you can sell software, as long as you sell the discs, and erase it from your computer.

I've seen people selling computers with expensive editing and graphics software loaded and asking more than the computer itself is worth, but they are keeping the discs. Anyone is kind of dumb, IMO, to pay extra on that basis. They don't own the license to the software, and they could be busted, especially if they use the software for commercial work. The worst that would likely happen, except in extreme cases, is they would be told to stop using the software and remove it from their computer--meanwhile the seller has their money and retains the rights to use the software.

Technology has created a whole new world of problems with intellectual property and copyrights. IBM thought the fledgling Microsoft was nuts when they were negotiating the original contract to use DOS on IBM's PC's and Microsoft told them they didn't want to sell them a copy of DOS for each machine, but wanted a lower price for a "license" for each copy. IBM thought they got the better end of the deal, but by retaining ownership Microsoft has made Bill Gates King Midas, and the new age of rights and ownership was born.

139 posted on 02/13/2006 12:34:22 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Keep the adults in charge of Congress.)
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