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US group implants electronic tags in workers
Financial Times ^ | 2/12/06 | Richard Waters

Posted on 02/12/2006 4:28:09 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: forrestroche
It's not paranoia. I never said she would get into office.

However, someone like her, will eventually get into office. Look at Clinton. If you won't trust a gov't like that to handle RFID, then you cannot give that tool to any gov't--that includes one in which you have the utmost respect/trust for.

281 posted on 02/13/2006 11:35:52 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: forrestroche

Checking out, this is just getting silly now and with all the hysterics, I fear someone is going to have a heart attack. There hasn't been a single post on the merits or risks of the use of this technology in a while. Think I'll water my plants (yes, they are chipped).


282 posted on 02/13/2006 11:37:12 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: forrestroche

heh--I was right. You can't defend this in light of my post.


283 posted on 02/13/2006 11:40:19 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: forrestroche
Just as only good little goverment worshippers could possibly give some benefit of the doubt to hard-working honest law enforcement officials when they say this might be really useful to us.

You've provided no evidence that most LEO's favor mandatory implantation of the entire citizenry. And you've done far more than give them "some benefit of the doubt". You've completely shut off your brain to any kind of rational scrutiny of this extremely ill-advised idea.

I didn't start the name calling

Yes you did, right at the beginning, with your comments on "ACLU types". That shows that you're utterly incapable of defending your position rationally.

284 posted on 02/13/2006 11:53:21 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: ShadowAce

you're right i'm just too weak


285 posted on 02/13/2006 11:53:46 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: MortMan

If the farmer sells enough of his land to allow them to change the land use regulations, just who is the fool?


You seem to have missed what appears to be your own main point - RFID chips are currently used to search you without your expressed consent or knowledge - That's specifically what they were designed to do, prevent shoplifting ... duh.

Every time you leave a store with scanners in place you are being searched. You don't have to wait - go sue Walmart tomorrow.


286 posted on 02/13/2006 11:57:46 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: river rat
If CWII becomes a nightmare come true in America....the losses in Finland wouldn't cover the losses in a single major metropolitan area in the U.S.....

Taken as a percentage of population, I think they'd be similar....remembering that the Finnish affray was blessedly short in duration. Most authorities set 25 Jan 1918 as the start of the conflict, though the first armed battles happened a week previously. The final Red-occupied stronghold at Viipuri fell on April 28-29 and mopping up continued until May 7, though there were many, many executions after that date.

With a total casualty figure of around 36,640, out of a population of some 3 million, they managed a casualty figure of about 1 per 1000.

Given the U.S. Year 2000 Census population figure of just under 300 million, that'd extrapolate here to more than a quarter million dead... but given a probable longer duration, and improved technologies for effectively performing the task at hand, I'd expect a butcher's bill of at least a million. Minimum.

287 posted on 02/13/2006 12:54:00 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: forrestroche
Yes there are, and maybe you should ask THEM if they were "little government worshippers" because they trusted their CinC and did their duty.

No .. I did trust my CinC and did my duty over in Kuwait, but if I were ordered by my government to forcibly inject RFID tracking devices in citizens as you suggested earlier in this thread, I would have refused and been on the other side in a heartbeat.

288 posted on 02/13/2006 1:07:13 PM PST by Centurion2000 ("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
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To: Kimmers

I'd find a new job (or start up my own new business) before I'd allow my employer to do this to me.


289 posted on 02/13/2006 1:12:18 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: wagglebee

Bump for later.


290 posted on 02/13/2006 1:16:05 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: RJS1950

I could see where creeps might murder to obtain personal chips from people. THAT is enough to make one ponder their personal use.


291 posted on 02/13/2006 1:16:50 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: wagglebee
this is just the framework for anti-christ...

the control of information is everything, and always has been. Even if someone disagrees with the means to the end, you have to admit the framework is being set up so there will be no more civil liberties...

292 posted on 02/13/2006 1:21:35 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Kimmers

293 posted on 02/13/2006 1:24:09 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
the control of information is everything, and always has been.

Exactly. People defending government surveillance try to justify it by saying things like "Well, Lincoln jailed editors during the Civil War, isn't that worse?" No, it's not worse than a government that's able to keep tabs on its citizens at all times. Freedom can survive occasional abuses. It can't survive chronic total lack of privacy.

294 posted on 02/13/2006 1:37:43 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: DainBramage; moog

This is music to my ears!


295 posted on 02/13/2006 1:41:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Libertina

Thanks for the book link.

Also, my site on it too:

http://nationalpropertyowners.org


296 posted on 02/13/2006 1:50:25 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(or start up my own new business)

But there are all these FORMS to fill out.....

297 posted on 02/13/2006 1:57:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Tench_Coxe


>>>>Try Googling up I.G. Farben to see what I'm talking about.

Monsanto MERGED with THEM too!!!!

Read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573646/posts
How do you say No NAIS in Japanese?


298 posted on 02/13/2006 2:15:40 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: HarleyD

I don't get the impression that these particular chips have lots of personal information about the employees -- just the fact they are allowed into this high security room, and presumably something to idenfity each of them, so if something goes missing, there's a record of who was in the room.


299 posted on 02/13/2006 2:17:46 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The DATABASE has all the personally information. The chip is the identifier.


300 posted on 02/13/2006 2:18:41 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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