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US group implants electronic tags in workers
Financial Times ^ | 2/12/06 | Richard Waters

Posted on 02/12/2006 4:28:09 PM PST by wagglebee

An Ohio company has embedded silicon chips in two of its employees - the first known case in which US workers have been “tagged” electronically as a way of identifying them.

CityWatcher.com, a private video surveillance company, said it was testing the technology as a way of controlling access to a room where it holds security video footage for government agencies and the police.

Embedding slivers of silicon in workers is likely to add to the controversy over RFID technology, widely seen as one of the next big growth industries.

RFID chips – inexpensive radio transmitters that give off a unique identifying signal – have been implanted in pets or attached to goods so they can be tracked in transit.

“There are very serious privacy and civil liberty issues of having people permanently numbered,” said Liz McIntyre, who campaigns against the use of identification technology.

But Sean Darks, chief executive of CityWatcher, said the glass-encased chips were like identity cards. They are planted in the upper right arm of the recipient, and “read” by a device similar to a cardreader.

“There’s nothing pulsing or sending out a signal,” said Mr Darks, who has had a chip in his own arm. “It’s not a GPS chip. My wife can’t tell where I am.”

The technology’s defenders say it is acceptable as long as it is not compulsory. But critics say any implanted device could be used to track the “wearer” without their knowledge.

VeriChip – the US company that made the devices and claims to have the only chips that have been approved by the Food and Drug Administration – said the implants were designed primarily for medical purposes.

So far around 70 people in the US have had the implants, the company said.


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To: forrestroche
member since 2003. 5 seconds of due dillegence would have told you that.

Doesn't mean that you didn't wander in mistaking this for a statist forum. Your viewpoint is that of a good little government worshiper.

261 posted on 02/13/2006 10:46:08 AM PST by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: wagglebee

self ping for later read


262 posted on 02/13/2006 10:51:22 AM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: MortMan

"My point is that the 4th amendment prohibits unreasonable search and seizure - and RFID chips can (and will, at some point) be used to search you without your knowledge, and certainly without even probable cause. "


??? Is your local supplier going to start putting RFID's on his baggies full of dope at some time ?


263 posted on 02/13/2006 10:53:40 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Centurion2000
I believe that figure of 9 million, is understated..

Because:
There are 10s of million Armed Americans..
There are millions of combat veterans in the U.S., or veterans trained for combat.
Civilian weapons are capable of rapid fire, and deadly at longer ranges.
We live much closer to one another, today..
Most folks couldn't survive for more that a week, without McDonalds or Safeway.
Most folks would panic, or not know how to care for themselves under stress, illness or danger.
Foreign enemies of the U.S. could certainly introduce WMD to their "allies" in the U.S. or "deliver" them themselves -- while the U.S. is too "absorbed" to respond.
Disease, hunger, heart-attacks, grudge killings, looting, etc, etc, etc, will lead to many deaths not directly related to fighting between adversaries.

The 9 million number is on the light side -- in my opinion.
It represents only 3% of our current population.....

As a nasty aside -- based on recent election results - there are a lot more than 3% of our voting population that "needs killin"....
< /sarcasm>

Semper Fi
264 posted on 02/13/2006 10:55:00 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: from occupied ga

>>>Your viewpoint is that of a good little government worshiper.

And yours of a good little militia freak who can't get over the outcome of the "war of northern agression." In case you didn't know it, OUR GOVERNMENT is the one fighting the terrorists, and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (Soldiers) - NOT you little militia boys, are the ones DYING fighting them.


265 posted on 02/13/2006 11:01:16 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: RS

I'm not talking about suppliers of illicit drugs. I'm talking about having a chip implanted in your body that will tell anyone with the right equipment, including law enforcement, who you are (and potentially everything else about you) just because you came in range of their scanner.

You seem preoccupied with drugs. I'm talking about "being secure in one's person and papers".


266 posted on 02/13/2006 11:03:54 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: river rat

>>>As a nasty aside -- based on recent election results - there are a lot more than 3% of our voting population that "needs killin"....

Can't argue with that.


267 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:31 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: forrestroche
And yours of a good little militia freak who can't get over the outcome of the "war of northern agression."

That's right, only cammied backwater mountaineers with the Stars-'n'-Bars over their huts could possibly object to mandatory chipping of the entire citizenry.

What's your IQ? Be honest, now.

268 posted on 02/13/2006 11:09:27 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: MortMan

" I'm talking about having a chip implanted in your body that will tell anyone with the right equipment, including law enforcement, who you are (and potentially everything else about you) just because you came in range of their scanner."

Well first off, the chip dosen't tell them "everything else about you" - it's an ID that leads them to a data base which may or may not hold "everything else about you".
Just like your driver's license number does now.

... and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready.


269 posted on 02/13/2006 11:12:18 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Tench_Coxe

"The car hesitated, or rather gave a faint whirring click, as if information, somewhere, was dropping card by punch-slotted card under electric eyes."


270 posted on 02/13/2006 11:13:31 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: RS
... and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready.

OMG! You can't possibly be that retarded, can you?

271 posted on 02/13/2006 11:14:21 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: forrestroche
You and MurrayMom both feel the same way. In the 20th century alone 80 - 100 million people were murdered by their own governments and fools like you think that it can never happen here Well I got news fer ya, jack. Human nature isn't any different in the USA than it was in Russia, Nazi Germany, Cambodia, Armenia, etc. Governments and the "useful idiots" who unquestioningly support them are always willing to justify any incroachment on freedom. It's "for the children" It's for the "war on terror" It's to control illegal immigration" Like the government is interested in doing that ha ha. It's for safety, etc.

There isn't any limit on what government are eager to do to their citizens to remvoe their freedoms and unfortunately there are plenty of people like you who cheer them on.

272 posted on 02/13/2006 11:18:30 AM PST by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: inquest

>>>That's right, only cammied backwater mountaineers with the Stars-'n'-Bars over their huts could possibly object to mandatory chipping of the entire citizenry.

Just as only good little goverment worshippers could possibly give some benefit of the doubt to hard-working honest law enforcement officials when they say this might be really useful to us. Only a good little government worshipper could imagine that the Government is up to something OTHER than trying to jail all Americans.

>>>What's your IQ? Be honest, now.

High enough to detect the inherent hipocrisy I have so artfully exposed above. I didn't start the name calling, but while I AM intelligent, I aint too mature for a good ole fashun flame war.


273 posted on 02/13/2006 11:19:29 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: forrestroche
In case you didn't know it, OUR GOVERNMENT is the one fighting the terrorists, and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (Soldiers) - NOT you little militia boys, are the ones DYING fighting them.

Maybe you better think twice before trying to fit a shoe store in your mouth. There are a LOT of veterans on this board.

274 posted on 02/13/2006 11:20:30 AM PST by Centurion2000 ("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
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To: forrestroche

Are you a salesman, or just a demonstration model?


275 posted on 02/13/2006 11:22:58 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: RS
...and IF you choose to live where you are forced to have this implanted, you have agreed to it allready.

Right. That's a lot like the folks who buy a house out in farm country then try to outlaw the smell of bovine excrement - and telling the farmer that they agreed to the new restriction when he allowed the busybodies to buy their houses.

Congratulations on your leap of illogic.

276 posted on 02/13/2006 11:26:15 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: Centurion2000

>>>There are a LOT of veterans on this board.

Yes there are, and maybe you should ask THEM if they were "little government worshippers" because they trusted their CinC and did their duty.


277 posted on 02/13/2006 11:26:52 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: Old Professer

Both to you.


278 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:54 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: forrestroche

Just a question--would you trust a Hillary Whitehouse/gov't with running a RFID program?


279 posted on 02/13/2006 11:28:42 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

>>>Just a question--would you trust a Hillary Whitehouse/gov't with running a RFID program?

That's your crack speaking. That crank will never land in the oval office. And even if some dim does (it won't be her), WHO CONTROLS THE SUPREME COURT NOW? Who controls the Pentagon? Who controls the Congress?

Stop the paranoia


280 posted on 02/13/2006 11:32:29 AM PST by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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