Ahmadinejad: Israel 'will be removed'

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=78985 ^

[Dark Skies]

Well, as I understand it there are two beasts in this section. One from the water and one from the abyss. Bible scholars believe the one from the water is a man from the existing bloodline of the earth (could mean mohammed or ahmadinejad or someone else).

The one from the abyss (the pit) sure fits the description of the Mahdi (the 12th Imam) who Ahmadinejad (and the Twelvers) believes will return via the well (pit) under the Jamkaran Mosque near Tehran. It is said that Ahmadinejad has imams drop leaflets into the well with the names of prospective cabinet member for the mahdi's administration.

However, who knows? I guess we'll find out soon.

[R_Kangel]

Time to pull the plug on his new toy.

He's threatened Israel enough. Give him enough time, he will more than likely make good (or bad) on his threats.

[Wraith]

This guy is realy asking for it.....

[fanfan]

Thanks for your post.

Very informative, and frightening.

[JasonC]

We ask the Persian people to get rid of the pollution Islam has caused since the 7th century. Sooner or later they will rid themselves of this alien infection in classical Persian civilization. We suggest it ought to be sooner.

[JasonC]

Baal is just the old semitic word for "Lord". Just like the old semitic word for "God" is "El". Do you think the original bible is written in King James English or something? All those "thus saith the Lord" passages, say "Baal".

[claudiustg]

It's not just Iran that is of immediate concern. We need to decide what really to do about the so-called Palestinians. The longer this goes on the more dangerous and difficult the situation becomes.

[Doc Savage]

Imagine it's 1938, but you're a time traveler and know what Hitler is about to do. You have the singular power to atomize Germany, every last person. Would you pull the trigger to save Polish, Russian, American, French lives???

How about Japan??? You can turn it to glass before it attempts to destroy America. Your move is.........?

Take out Iran and Syria NOW! Every last soul. Turn it to glass!

[Drammach]

All those "thus saith the Lord" passages, say "Baal".

Some may, it depends on when that book was written..
IIRC, some say Allah too.. It also means "The Lord".. in Arabic..
And some say Yahweh..
But Israelites turned away from using Baal as a word for the Hebrew God..
It became associated with a pagan religion in direct conflict with Judaism..
This happened well before Christianity, and an additional 600 years before Islam..

[SuziQ]

"The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the ... Arab nations FAILED WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT to resettle the (relatively) small number of Arabs from the new Israel into the mainstream of Jordan, Egypt, et. al., thus ensuring the present state of affairs.

There are so many who do not know this. It is important for people in the US to understand who exactly it was who failed the Palestinians.

[M203M4]

Hey Ahmadinejad. I looked into your future. Wanna know what I saw?

[JasonC]

Mostly they used the pural - the canaanite pagans are said to worship "the baals" rather than the singular. There are plenty of indications some of the originals of old testament passages were originally about the Syraic baal, who was a storm god. The idea of all the first born males "belonging" to "the lord" is a pagan Syraic baal thing. Prominent enough in the story of Isaac and Moriah. One might say for Judaism proper the fact that God does not desire human sacrifice - the He (not Abraham) spares Isaac - marks the moral dividing line between the old Syrian paganism and the new moral monotheism.

The Syraic religion was still prominent up to the Babylonian captivity, even among the Jews. Kings is full of it, with its moral theme being the question whether this or that ruler will side with the Yahwehists against the rest of the religious traditions around them, or not. Despite occcasional attacks on paganism it recurs. There is no uniform Yahwehist religion among the Jews until the return from the Babylonian captivity.

And that was due to the Persians first of all. They enabled the return and the rebuilding of the temple precisely to give homage to monotheism. The Persians were at that time moral monotheists, though by later standards of the dualist or Manichean stripe.

Every religious tradition in the ancient world was built on top of pagan predecessors. Islam fits that pattern, but it is a pattern and not an exception. The first external sources referring to Islam - Armenian histories about a century after its rise - refer to it as a version of the religion of Abraham. A revision, in other words, to a precursor of Judaism. That doesn't mean that is what it is, it just means that is how it was "sold" to the middle east, early on.

The actual operative cause of its rise, on the other hand, was the generalship of Omar, who exploited the rivalry between Persia and Byzantium to conquer the near east in record time. Islam can be viewed as a syncretic ideology meant to appeal to both camps while rejecting elements unacceptable to the other - with the camps in question being Byzantian Christianity and Persian Zorastrianism (its own moral monotheism, of Manichean stripe - and incidentally the historical source of the idea of a day of judgment, which was very prominent in early Islam).

There is no reason to go outside well known history to explain Islam.

[Billthedrill]

Do the removal of Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations...

Hmm...seems to me the "regional nations" got together and tried this a couple of times, 1967 and 1973 if I remember rightly. Butts were kicked and names taken. I don't think a return match would be that good an idea.

[RichInOC]

Mahmoud, even the Germans acknowledge the Holocaust happened. The concentration camps in-country are historical sites. The villa in suburban Berlin where Reinhard Heydrich and the fellas cleared the decks for the Final Solution is now a museum. They have a historical exhibit, eventually to be another museum, on the lot in town where the SS, Gestapo and SD headquarters used to be. This simply is not even open for discussion. And by the way, if you guys try to remove Israel, they're more likely to remove you.

[WhirlwindAttack]

I am almost to the point of "Kill them ALL and let GOD sort them out"!

I'm past the point. Father of a murdered Marine, who had to go east because we didn't finish the job the first time.
I say we rain nukes down over the whole area. Radioactive oil will burn in my SUV.

[Paul_Denton]

Ahmadinejad: Israel Iran 'will be removed'

Fixed.

[Alouette]

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[beyond the sea]

"How comes that insulting the prophet of Muslims worldwide is justified within the framework of press freedom, but investigating about the fairy tale Holocaust is not?" Ahmadinejad said.

"The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless," Ahmadinejad said.

*****

This guy's nuts, grab 'em.

[Monti Cello]

Addressing a mass demonstration in Tehran....

A drone-delivered hellfire missile would have made quite an impression for the crowd.

[beyond the sea]

Ahmadinejad, one more peep out of you and we're going to release the really bad cartoons of the goat raping, child molesting fraud.

LOL.