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LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050

Good Monday morning, once again, fellow political jinkies. The NFL season may be over, but the political season inside the Beltway is 24/7/365. So join us, if you can, as those wacky Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee reprise their pitiful efforts to once again smear President Bush and score political points..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; ag; albertogonzales; attorneygeneral; doj; dojprobe; gonzales; nsa; spying; ussenate
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To: nuffsenuff

Something is definately up with swimmer. I believe he's got the role of good cop with this hearing. Someone else is to play bad cop. He was bad cop in the Alito hearings. The dembos are like kids playing games.


2,021 posted on 02/06/2006 1:30:25 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: StarFan
"You simply cannot reason with these people and that goes for some in my own family."

Mine too, sadly. I was hoping to convert my inlaws before they died, but that will never happen. They refuse to believe the Dems have been hijacked by the libs.

2,022 posted on 02/06/2006 1:31:48 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: billhilly

What the Kennedy doesn't realize is even with FISA, the ACLU still thinks it is illegel! Check it out: http://www.cleveland.com/damra/index.ssf?/damra/more/1107167505174330.html


2,023 posted on 02/06/2006 1:32:20 PM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: shield
The dembos are like kids playing games.

The games they're playing can get us all killed!

2,024 posted on 02/06/2006 1:32:53 PM PST by Gritty (The mainstream media think of this war on terror as Bush's war, not America's war - Richard Miniter)
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To: shield
The taming of the swimmer, huh? I wonder about the Kennedy administration and what John and Robert Kennedy did. I seem to remember the accusation that they spied on Martin Luther King..........on what grounds did they do that? Hmmm.
2,025 posted on 02/06/2006 1:33:03 PM PST by tioga (Where is spring???)
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To: sageb1

Biden is confused? Do tell!


2,026 posted on 02/06/2006 1:33:22 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

My own brother is a lib. He's so irrational, we just stay away from any discussion of politics at all.


2,027 posted on 02/06/2006 1:33:30 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: prairiebreeze

They can clear this up with Jamie Gorelick by CALLING HER TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH instead of SENDING OUT LETTERS!!!

How convenient. /sarcasm

The Democrats don't want Gorelick under oath!




"During the Clinton administration, Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before Congress in 1994 that the president has inherent authority under the Constitution to conduct foreign intelligence searches of the private homes of U.S. citizens in the United States without a warrant, and that such warrantless searches are permissible under the Fourth Amendment.



the wall established by Clinton Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick prevented the CIA from talking to the FBI; any kind of "domestic spying" and communication between those who had information and those who could act upon it would have been unacceptable



Clinton's deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick, told Congress the president has the inherent authority to approve warrantless physical searches. However, Gorelick has recently stated the Clinton Administration supported a 1995 law requiring warrants, and said the Clinton administration never violated that law.


2,028 posted on 02/06/2006 1:33:42 PM PST by kcvl
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To: shield

Plugs is practically laughing as he asks "how has the leak of this information damaged our ability to track AQ".

And he literally laughed out loud at Gonzales's answer.


2,029 posted on 02/06/2006 1:33:44 PM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Peach

I'm embarrassed at what an idiot Plugs is.


2,030 posted on 02/06/2006 1:34:36 PM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Peach

Biden is too much of a buffoon to even hate.


2,031 posted on 02/06/2006 1:34:55 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: tiki
Can the Dims sue and therefore get it there or does it have to be someone who really was survielled this way?

It has to be someone who is/was personally affected.

That's why the DEMs are trying to get the NSA to attach a personal name to a target. The guy who plead guilty to helping with plans to cut down the Brooklyn Bridge is one person who might have had a case, but he admitted to the charge, so he won't get to challenge the conviction on the grounds of "illegal evidence."

2,032 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:01 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: sageb1; StarFan

My SIL lent my MIL jimmy carter's newest book - I got the lecture about what a great man jimmy really is....... It was all I could do to bite my tongue and respect my 80something year old MIL. In fact, I pinched my husbands hand in my pain. LOL.....we both stayed quiet.


2,033 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:13 PM PST by tioga (Where is spring???)
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To: Peach

Plugs: Gorelick says that the Aldrich Ames case is about physical searches.

Oh good - so we need less probable cause and fewer warrants to have people break into our homes and take stuff out - is that Durbin's point?


2,034 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:23 PM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: sageb1
Biden's philosophy is it's ok to leak the info if he thinks Al-Qaeda already knows. Hail, hail King Biden!
2,035 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:45 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Peach

Were you pleased with the answer Gonzales gave? It didn't sit too well with me.


2,036 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:50 PM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan

I know what you mean. Unfortunately my sister has been coming on strong about how she is still proud to be a democrat. She is now suggesting that I should reconsider being a republican because the party is so corrupt and the president is stupid and now should be impeached for breaking the law. I told her that I was having email trouble in my last email to her(I totally ignored everything she said) and was changing internet service and blocked her. We never talk politics when we call each other (live across the country from each other) but she feels like it is okay to bombard me with her views in email. If she calls I will just tell her that I no longer do email because of trouble with new server...lol


2,037 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:52 PM PST by ozzysmom
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To: Peach
I think Kennedy realizes just how horribly he came off in the Alito hearings too because he's quite mild today. Although he can't usually help himself for long and I expect another outburst at any second.

I think someone must have slipped him a rather large dose of Splash's 'Happy Traveler' medicine this morning. Mellowed out the 'ole dog'!

2,038 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:53 PM PST by top 2 toe red ("The Pres & I cannot prevent some politician's from losing their memories or their backbones." VP Ch)
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To: Peach
Hairplugs quoting Gorelick again.

Is he planning on asking a question, or does he just like to hear himself talk?

2,039 posted on 02/06/2006 1:36:02 PM PST by Gritty (The mainstream media think of this war on terror as Bush's war, not America's war - Richard Miniter)
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To: tioga

Biden - "you gotta know how to know"........OMG, what an idiot.


2,040 posted on 02/06/2006 1:36:05 PM PST by tioga (Where is spring???)
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