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1 posted on 02/06/2006 5:09:32 AM PST by Dark Skies
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2 posted on 02/06/2006 5:16:09 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: USF; Fred Nerks; AmericanArchConservative; jan in Colorado; justche; Former Dodger; All
There are more diamonds and pearls in this article by VDH that I have found in all other editorials since the beginning of the new year.

This article is like a "feel great movie" for news junkies!

3 posted on 02/06/2006 5:17:57 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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This is an excellent article by Dr. Hanson. Thank you for posting it.


4 posted on 02/06/2006 5:21:49 AM PST by snowsislander
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One has to wonder if Europe really cares about Israel? I think some leaders do care. Blair and Merkel care. Also other countries like Italy, Denmark, Netherlands etc. France seems ticked off at Assad and concerned about Iran. Still, will they join us in air strikes on Iran?
5 posted on 02/06/2006 5:21:54 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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As usual, Hanson is right on target.


6 posted on 02/06/2006 5:22:19 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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.....The new European Union.....

The union is ephemeral rather than real. It cannot function as a concentrated source of force. Action if any will be on a state by state basis.


8 posted on 02/06/2006 5:23:10 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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"It is one thing to subsidize a double-talking Arafat, quite another to keep giving money to terrorists who openly promise to finish the European holocaust."

Indeed it is. So, has any European government or the EU as a whole reduce funding to Hamas by one centime?

No?

10 posted on 02/06/2006 5:29:28 AM PST by JasonC
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A European Awakening Against Islamic Fascism?

One can only hope. If they don't, in a few years they're done.

11 posted on 02/06/2006 5:36:07 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Has Europe awakened to the specter of a mullah laying a scimitar to its throat? Maybe, but the real question is... what will it DO about it?!
12 posted on 02/06/2006 5:36:27 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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The tide may be turning as far as EuroPeon attitudes toward the enemys withing the gates. That is good news. It is also good news that the Mohammedians (pigs be upon them) like the Germans in WWII have overplayed their hand and have bitten off more than they can chew.


13 posted on 02/06/2006 5:45:02 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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As usual, VDH says what I have been thinking... only much more eloquently. Europe will wake up one of these days and decide that enough is enough. I just wish it happened 2 years ago.


14 posted on 02/06/2006 5:48:17 AM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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They say the threat before too. Just politicians like Schroeder played games.

Under the table they HAD to cooperate to make all the prisoner flights that they were so "shocked" about happen. Think of the logistics alone!

Many in Europe were simply playing a game and denying the obvious. The awakening is not at the ministerial level, for those like Schroeder always knew the truth. The awakening is for the layperson who was being living the life of a mushroom, while their government preached that this threat is just a figment of George Bush's imagination.

Most in Europe are playing the political advantageous – be anti war, anti US and pander to the political left while also pandering to some nationalist movement. Were and are they so stupid not to know the truth? No –

It’s a sad statement about much of Europe’s society, their politics and national resolve in what has been unfolding in the last few years.


15 posted on 02/06/2006 6:03:42 AM PST by Red6
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[The European Union] has a greater gross domestic product than that of America and could, in theory, field military forces as disciplined and as well equipped as our own.

Ahhh! Victor David Hanson is human after all. The first part of the statement is not true. The second is very dubious.

According to the CIA World Factbook:
EU's GDP is $12.18 trillion (2005 est.)
USA's GDP is $12.37 trillion (2005 est.)
The EU would need another Switzerland, Denmark or Sweeden to be bigger. They used to be much larger. Next year, they would need to add another Sweeden to stay even.

Regarding the second point, they theoretically could, but politically, it would be impossible. They do not have a unified government to administer the military.

Technically, VDH could be correct if you measure the GDP at "Offical Exchange Rate" instead of "Purchasing Power Parity", but then my point would be moot. So, I prefer to look at it in a way that makes me right and him wrong. In this way, I am smarter than him ... is (are)?
16 posted on 02/06/2006 6:06:47 AM PST by BillCompton
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BTTT


17 posted on 02/06/2006 6:11:05 AM PST by aculeus
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" ... the Green European leadership who came of age in the street theater of 1968 ... "


A good punch in the nose to the Leftists, by Hanson, and inirectly the American Euro-weenie lovers.


" ... the Europeans found very quickly that for all their subtlety and exalted rhetoric they did no better than George Bush in dealing with these anti-Western fanatics."


Indeed, they did not. And now the scrambling begins.


" ... And should we ever see a true alliance of such Western powers, the war against the fascists of the Middle East would be simply over in short order."


I won't hold my breath for that one.





18 posted on 02/06/2006 6:11:40 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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It has a greater gross domestic product than that of America and could, in theory, field military forces as disciplined and as well equipped as our own.

You need numerous and brave young people to field an army as disciplined as America's.

Non-Muslim young people are in increasingly shorter supply in Europe.

A combination of Western European wealth and Eastern European youth might do it.

19 posted on 02/06/2006 6:12:47 AM PST by wideawake
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Thanks for the post


21 posted on 02/06/2006 6:24:13 AM PST by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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Ping


22 posted on 02/06/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by PubliusMM (Just doin' my best to stay free and secure. God Bless our military personnel.)
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Europeans will wake up sooner or later on the Muslim question. It's just whether they will wake up in time or not.


23 posted on 02/06/2006 6:33:03 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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Long-term geopolitical developments are not cyclical or even linear, but "quantized"-- subject to abrupt discontinuities, invariably unforeseen, that nonetheless "change everything" to provide radically different contexts for generations. Think 1789, 1914... those worlds of the late 18th and early 20th Centuries perished so abruptly, so totally, that anyone passing such historical divides became an instant socio-cultural fossil.

And so today... with the caveat, that Europe's looming demographic catastrophe --a population drop due to rival that of the Great Plagues-- is going to manifest itself in many a strange way. For starters: By 2030, there will be no "youth culture"; the excresences of Boomerdom from about 1960 through 2010 will be a memory, a "what were they thinking?" theme when adult reality re-asserts itself. Second, lacking human cohorts, there will be extraordinary incentive to substitute "artificial", robotic means for low-end functions all through society. Finally, by this mid-Twenty First Century, it is all but certain that mankind will have moved substantial numbers off the planet, especially as it's borne in that our current Interglacial is 3,000 years past-due to end. ("Global warming" is a carnard, an 800-year cyclical phenomenon driven by annular rings of dust within the inner Solar System.)

What this will do to Muslim crypto-fascism, assuming that even Old Europe will snap to attentiveness in time, is render every rug merchant and camel driver what they have always been-- benighted, ignorant, stupid in the Darwinian sense that, as a culture, they are so purposefully uncompetitive as to foster their extinction.

When the multi-culti, doofus-femmer, paleo-Leftist bubble bursts, the ones remaining will be those disgusted by it from Day One. We count ourselves as such. Mounting our Rainbow Bridge, we seek new paths towards Home.









25 posted on 02/06/2006 6:55:18 AM PST by Pyrthroes (Dwelling in Possibility)
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