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Aikman, White, Madden lead six-man Fame class
NFL News ^ | Feb. 4, 2006 | NFL.com wire reports

Posted on 02/04/2006 11:40:08 AM PST by infidel29

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To: Dreagon

"Considering their achievements over the years, they are probably one of the most underrepresented teams in the HOF. I think before this latest class they only had 6-7 players in there."

Agreed.   The Cowboys, IMHO, are a victim of biased attitudes, whether jealousy, envy, or inferiority complex - they're the team other teams (and most of the media) love to hate. The Cowboys only had 7 total in the Hall of Fame prior to this class - 5 players and 2 non-players (coach and general manager).  Here they are:

#74 Bob Lilly
Defensive Tackle
1961-1974

#20 Mel Renfro
Defensive Back
1964-1977

#12 Roger Staubach
Quarterback
1969-1979

#54 Randy White
Defensive Tackle
1975-1988

#33 TONY DORSETT
Running Back
1977-1987

Non-Players:
    Coach:    Tom Landry
    GM:        Tex Schramm

41 posted on 02/04/2006 12:54:23 PM PST by RebelTex (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120) - For more info, search FR keyword: folding)
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To: Alberta's Child
That couldn't have been Carson. He retired in 1988

Your right,I stand corrected.

42 posted on 02/04/2006 12:55:30 PM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: infidel29

I might have gone for Thruman Thomas over Moon but it's pretty close.


43 posted on 02/04/2006 1:06:34 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alberta's Child

He has every right to be bitter but I hope he shows up for his ceremony.


44 posted on 02/04/2006 1:07:26 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: RebelTex

I agree that there's been a slight bias against the Cowboys regarding the HOF. Not necessarily widespread, but because of the limited number of voters it doesn't take many voters with a bias to screw things up.

But I also understand why there has been a widespread bias against Cowboy fans. Just spent an hour listening to some idiot Cowboy fan blowhards bitch about how they didn't get 3 in this year while at the same time trashing Warren Moon as completely unworthy because he didn't win a Superbowl and just got in because he was black and padded his stats in Canada. Nevermind that he led inferior teams to numerous playoffs, 51,000 NFL yards, more than 300 NFL touchdowns, top 5 in 5 NFL categories, and was selected to 8 straight pro bowls.


45 posted on 02/04/2006 1:07:49 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Isn't the controversy on that play more about who touched the ball last?


46 posted on 02/04/2006 1:08:15 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Gunflint

i thought that was Burt.


47 posted on 02/04/2006 1:09:43 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Beat me to it......!

9 Time Pro Bowler
Harry Carson

48 posted on 02/04/2006 1:13:21 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Great tagline. Original.


49 posted on 02/04/2006 1:21:56 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Agreed...I don't think I missed any games that #53 played in. One of the greatest middle linebackers to ever play, I keenly remember how he would meet the ballcarrier head on and stand him up stopping his forward progress.

Back in the '80s I met him several times and he was a most gracious individual. He also had the biggest head I had ever seen...

50 posted on 02/04/2006 1:26:34 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: lonestar

I forgot about that incident. You're right.


51 posted on 02/04/2006 1:47:01 PM PST by Comstock1 (I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum!)
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To: mainepatsfan
I think Thurman will have to overcome the image of him "losing his helmet" in the Super Bowl and not going into the game when called upon. He should still get in though.

Contrary to some here, I think Warren Moon was a lock. Stats and longevity not to mention a lot of talent and having to live up to the hype after coming over from the CFL.

52 posted on 02/04/2006 1:47:50 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"...trashing Warren Moon as completely unworthy because he didn't win a Superbowl..."

That's just ignorance.  Moon was a good QB who played for a mostly mediocre team.  There were a few other good players, but not enough to win the big one.  Coaching and drafts also played a role.  There are many factors that must all come together at the same time to make it to the SB and win.  It shouldn't keep a player from being recognized for his talent and accomplishments, but often, it does.   Perhaps that's why football is called a team sport.  Now, if someone thinks Moon should not be in the HOF for other reasons - like other more deserving players, or lack of stats, or lack of leadership, etc. - then that argument should be made.

 

53 posted on 02/04/2006 1:48:50 PM PST by RebelTex (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120) - For more info, search FR keyword: folding)
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To: mainepatsfan
i thought that was Burt.

His replacement Erik Howard caused it, LT recovered it and history was written.

54 posted on 02/04/2006 1:51:35 PM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: fedupjohn
Harry caused the Roger Craig fumble in the Championship Game in 1991 that help beat the 49ers and send the Gaints to the Super Bowl in Tampa.

Craig retired on that check to blow that game.

55 posted on 02/04/2006 1:53:15 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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To: fedupjohn

I was referring to the hit that knocked Montana out of the '86 playoff game.


56 posted on 02/04/2006 2:25:18 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan
Isn't the controversy on that play more about who touched the ball last?

That's right. And Madden doesn't necessarily believe that defensive back Jack Tatum touched the ball (if Tatum hadn't touched the ball, then the play would have been ruled an incomplete pass under the rules at the time). He swears that he has watched video clips of that play hundreds of times since then, and he still has never been able to make a definitive statement about whether the ball was touched by Tatum, Frenchy Fuqua (the offensive player), or both.

57 posted on 02/04/2006 2:30:25 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: RebelTex
Good post. I'd love to see a list of retired players from the Dallas Cowboys who should (at least in your mind) be in the Hall of Fame.
58 posted on 02/04/2006 2:32:13 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child
There was a similar controversy about Mackey's TD in Super Bowl V. Mike Ditka was literally hopping mad about it.
59 posted on 02/04/2006 2:34:34 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan
I was referring to the hit that knocked Montana out of the '86 playoff game.

That was Jim Burt: I was at that game.. Damn it was cold that night, but I was so liquored up that it didn't matter.

60 posted on 02/04/2006 2:35:02 PM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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